The Wii is the only console that gets innovative and niche games for it released on a regular basis. Sure, a lot of Wii games are shovelware, but the games for it that are good, are often new and innovative, and they experiment with unique new gameplay forms and sometimes even are released for the non-mainstream market. Whereas on the HD consoles the games are often the same thing over and over and over again with little or no unique innovation and no niche markets whatsoever. Sadly though, most of the Wii's innovation comes from Nintendo and their first-party studios. Discuss.

Note: I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, nor do I prefer motion controls over real controllers, in fact, I'd say that while motion controls are good in that they increase humanity's level of technology, but they are bad in that they are a fad and a gimmick.

Playstation 3 has Flower. Screw the Wii.

I enjoy the PS3 exclusives more though the Wii does have some great ones.

Trolly troll is trolly.

" Playstation 3 has Flower. Screw the Wii. "

When Wii games are good, they're really good. But i don't wanna wait 2 years between great games.

I'm gonna have to disagree, sir.

I'm beaten into submission by this thread... I have to agree.  
 
Although the PS3 and Xbox 360 have their share of innovation, but it's incomparable to the Wii, as the console was built upon innovation. 

 
Ok that is your opinion.

Wii games aren't necessarily more innovative, but they have high-quality entries in a number of genres that destroy whatever 360/PS3 presently offer. But you're not quite right to say it's only Nintendo that is innovating, there are many unique 3rd-party games.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, Meowayne's list should dispel all doubt about the quality of games on the Wii, except for those who have limited or bad taste.

WII has some fun games you don't get on the other platforms sure

Wii probably has the best exclusives ironically, but those are it's only good games.   

" Wii games aren't necessarily more innovative, but they have high-quality entries in a number of genres that destroy whatever 360/PS3 presently offer. But you're not quite right to say it's only Nintendo that is innovating, there are many unique 3rd-party games.I've said it once and I'll say it again, Meowayne's list should dispel all doubt about the quality of games on the Wii, except for those who have limited or bad taste. "

Wait, I thought the Wii only had bowling?

Can you describe an example of innovation? Games like Super Mario Galaxy are solid, but I would hardly call them innovative. It's just a string of mini-game type activities (blow this bubble, roll this ball), which Nintendo has been doing since the 90s. Zelda and Metroid are other examples of solid series, but they also pretty much just build on what has been done already. Now that Kinect and Move are out, there's not much that can be done on the Wii that can't be done on the PS3 and 360 either since they are superior technologies. Many of the exclusive indie titles on Wii are fantastic, but last time I checked PS3 and 360 had games like Braid, Limbo and Flower in their indie catalogue, so innovation can hardly be compared there as one being better than the other.
 
There are also inevitably some games that are on the Wii which aren't on the PS3 and 360 mainly due to licenses, audience choices and hardware constraints, but that doesn't really count as innovation either. Otherwise someone could say that the PS3 and 360 are more innovative over the Wii due to their modern military shooters and realistic racing games, which the Wii lacks for the most part; a non sequitur.

Please don't turn this into a legitimate thread.

" @Claude:  I refuse to be ashamed of my Wii! "

 Now that Kinect and Move are out, there's not much that can be done on the Wii that can't be done on the PS3 and 360 either since they are superior technologies.     

" Wii games aren't necessarily more innovative, but they have high-quality entries in a number of genres that destroy whatever 360/PS3 presently offer. "

It has some innovative games, but that's it. What Wii games always lack is a deep story. The story on Wii games always seem put together at the last one. There aren't any games that feature a real story on the Wii.

" @Geno:  
 

 Now that Kinect and Move are out, there's not much that can be done on the Wii that can't be done on the PS3 and 360 either since they are superior technologies.     

But you have to agree that the Wii was the one that created this segment of the market and created the games and gameplay with which to populated it with. Although arguably the Wii created its own market, and as such innovated the most.  "

who cares about innovation. I just want to play a good game, I don't need fancy new gameplay mechanics to enjoy a game.

Please list off good games on the wii that are innovative to help prove your point.  And I said list some GOOD games.  Just because a game is innovative doesn't mean it's good.  People have argued that Heavy Rain is innovative, but hardly anyone considers it a good game.

"People have argued that Heavy Rain is innovative, but hardly anyone considers it a good game. "

Aggregate scores
Aggregator	Score
GameRankings	89.30%
Metacritic	87/100
Review scores
Publication	Score
1UP.com	A-
Edge	7/10
Eurogamer	9/10
Famitsu	37/40
G4	4/5
Game Informer	9.5/10
GamePro	5/5
GameSpot	8.5/10
GameSpy
GameTrailers	8.9/10
GameZone	9/10
IGN	9.0/10
Official PlayStation Magazine (US)
Official PlayStation Magazine (UK)	9/10
MSNBC	favourable

You mean the Wii doesn't have good graphics and cant do shooters easily so the good games tend to look innovative and stick out like a sore thumb over the questionable games.  If every game was goldeneye it would be the same as the other consoles.
Well I sort of get your point.  For example, Fallout: New Vegas, They didn't really have to innovate with that game because everyone liked Fallout 3 so much.  And the only way to innovate with a shooter now, unless you're Valve, is to make it more like an RPG.  What most people are buying are the shooters, sports games, or racing games so that's what most people think when they think 360 and PS3.  On the Wii everyone is playing Galaxy.  There are cool indie games on the 360 and PS3, but the only thing indie people like to do is be innovative in ways that big companies can't.  But those people are on every platform, Dsi, Wii, iPhone, PC, 360, and PS3.  I would not be suprised if someone is coding a ZX Spectrum game as we speak.  The Wii just has more data limits so all the others get it first.  Overall, the reason why not all games are innovative is because we don't want the next shooter game to be released in the year 2015.  The genres that flood the 360 and PS3 tend not to lead to innovation.

Also Nintendo spends a huge amount of money on research and development so their products are years ahead of the competition in terms of innovation.

But I can't tell you what you think is innovative. You have to go and decide.

Nintendo did two things and two things well. Instead of pushing a button, why not throw in some motion. How about some IR? Sounds good. They took old tech and made it rich. My golf games haven't been better. If Move just does a little copy and paste of Tiger Woods for the PS3, oh boy, I'm a happy camper.
 
If simplicity is innovation, so be it.

PC indie games. 
 
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Waggling is not an innovation.

lol

" @teh_pwnzorer: What the hell do you call the co-existence of the Wiimote, Kinect, and Move then?  "

" @SethPhotopoulos: Thanks for a list of scores that no one cares about. Heavy Rain still sucks. No one is replaying that game, no one cares about that game anymore, no one is even talking about that game anymore, that game came and went within a few weeks. And you completely missed my point. My point wasn't weather Heavy Rain is good or not, I was using it as an example that innovation doesn't automatically make a game good.  If it makes you happy, replace "Heavy Rain" with "Mirror's Edge" and you get my point. Another game that was hyped to be something ground breakingly new, yet fell flat on it's face.  And please don't reply with a bunch of review scores for Mirror's Edge because I don't care about review scores, nobody cares for that game. "

" @SethPhotopoulos: Thanks for a list of scores that no one cares about.  "

" @Geno:  When 3d graphics were first implemented by the PSX they were completely awful, and in fact way worse than what 2d graphics were capable of at the time. Nevertheless, the potential was there to be developed: you're just closing off future potential with highly subjective value-judgments. As for your point, I'd say it's straightforwardly wrong because motion controls have improved and/or innovated in at least a few genres: puzzle, sports, rail shooter, adventure, and casual/party games at least on the Wii. Resident Evil 4 is a standard example of how they can work extremely well for action games, better than a controller even.It's not a completely baseless technology along the lines of the Power Glove. It's made an impact, and the tech. will be refined further with Sony and Xbox also adopting it. "

" @teh_pwnzorer:   Anyways, keep being threatened by something completely unthreatening and irrelevant to you. "

all that shovelware is mighty impressive

Anyone have a guess for how may comments this thread is going to get before it stops being posted about?  If someone unbiased was trying to come up with this thread just to get replies he/she did a great job.  It's hard to convince everybody to land somewhere in the middle on a subject like this.  Some people have judgmental personality types that assume things about things the have no idea about.

I wonder if Endless Ocean would work with Kinect. I'm sure it would with Move. I can just imagine it now. I played Dawn of Discovery on the Wii. What does the future hold for RTS games on consoles with motion being the flavor of this generation? The future seems bright.

" @Geno:  So, analogously, should we have condemned 3d graphics when they first came out because they were shitty and inimical to 2d graphics, the then-present convention and superior graphical choice? "

" I wonder if Endless Ocean would work with Kinect. I'm sure it would with Move. I can just imagine it now. I played Dawn of Discovery on the Wii. What does the future hold for RTS games on consoles with motion being the flavor of this generation? The future seems bright. "