Should the name of the page be changed?

#1 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11306 posts) -

With the recent announcement of the Persona 4 anime, the name of the main character comes into question. As you may know, he was named Souji Seta in the manga. HOWEVER, apparently his name is going to be Yu Narukami in the anime. And of course he is known to many as Charlie Tunoku. 


So, what's the real name then? Souji? Yu? Charlie? 

Now, I personally think that the page should either be Charlie Tunoku, or something like "Persona 4's Main Character." 

But what does everyone else think? 
#2 Posted by mutha3 (4986 posts) -
@MooseyMcMan said:
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Now, I personally think that the page should either be Charlie Tunoku, or something like "Persona 4's Main Character." 

"
This should be it.

No idea where people got the idea that "Souji Seta" is canon.
#3 Edited by mutha3 (4986 posts) -

Isn't there a board for renaming stuff? Maybe we should take this there.

If we're sticking with a name, I think Yu Narukami should be it. The P4 dev team is actually involved with that in some capacity as opposed to the manga(0 involvement).

#4 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11306 posts) -
@mutha3: Yeah, there probably is a specific board for that, but I didn't really feel like figuring out what it was, and when I thought of this, I was already on the Souji Seta page...So blame laziness! 
#5 Posted by ThePickle (4186 posts) -

Should be Charlie Tunoko. Most people know him by that name, and "Main Character" is far too overused. 

#6 Posted by mutha3 (4986 posts) -
@HandsomeDevil said:
" Should be Charlie Tunoko. Most people know him by that name, and "Main Character" is far too overused.  "
Outside of the GB community--

No. They've already said that they don't want a joke wiki. Charlie Tunoku is really insular.
#7 Posted by JJOR64 (19023 posts) -

What ever is canon in the video game should be the name of the page.  It's like Red with the Pokemon series.  His name isn't Ash or Satoshi in the games, it's Red.

If Charlie is his canon name, then the page should be Charlie.

#8 Posted by Hailinel (25179 posts) -
@JJOR64 said:
" What ever is canon in the video game should be the name of the page.  It's like Red with the Pokemon series.  His name isn't Ash or Satoshi in the games, it's Red.If Charlie is his canon name, then the page should be Charlie. "
That's just it.  He has no canon name.

I already made a request for a name change in the proper thread.  What the page should be called is Persona 4 Protagonist.  Call him Charlie, or Souji, or Yu if you want, but he has no official name.
#9 Posted by eroticfishcake (7786 posts) -

I think Souji Seta should be the default name and any other names should be used as aliases (though Charlie Tunoku is debatable). It doesn't really matter too much since they redirect to the same page anyway.

#10 Posted by JJOR64 (19023 posts) -
#11 Posted by Hailinel (25179 posts) -
@JJOR64 said:
" @Hailinel:   If that's the cause, then it should be something similar to Hero from the Dragon Quest VIII. "
Nope.  Because do you know how many characters are named "Hero" in the database?

Do you realize how stupid that is?

Any time I create a page for a character who does not have a canon name, I always name the character either *Game Name* Protagonist, *Game Name* Hero, or *Game Name* Heroine.
#12 Posted by drag (1223 posts) -

Should be MC or Protagonist (Persona 4) with  Souji, Yu and (possibly) Charlie as aliases redirects. 

#13 Posted by JJOR64 (19023 posts) -
@Hailinel:   I said something similar, not the name "Hero."
#14 Posted by ThePickle (4186 posts) -
@mutha3 said:
" @HandsomeDevil said:
" Should be Charlie Tunoko. Most people know him by that name, and "Main Character" is far too overused.  "
Outside of the GB community-- No. They've already said that they don't want a joke wiki. Charlie Tunoku is really insular. "
Fair enough. I'll take anything that isn't Souji Seta. 
#15 Edited by InfiniteGeass (2056 posts) -

I've always known him as MC outside of my own game and Souji Seta in the manga.

#16 Posted by Animasta (14713 posts) -
@drag said:
" Should be MC or Protagonist (Persona 4) with  Souji, Yu and (possibly) Charlie as aliases redirects.  "
#17 Posted by Deusoma (3018 posts) -

Stick with Souji, or go with Yu. Make the others aliases (and even making an alias for "Charlie Tonuku" is admittedly a bit in-jokey). Naming a character page "protagonist" is just awkward and ugly.

#18 Posted by iAmJohn (6128 posts) -
@Deusoma said:
" Stick with Souji, or go with Yu. Make the others aliases (and even making an alias for "Charlie Tonuku" is admittedly a bit in-jokey). Naming a character page "protagonist" is just awkward and ugly. "
Yeah, this is my take on this.  Souji and Yu are the closest to official names we're going to get (and really, there's something to be said about "good enough;" a name that may not be what Atlus calls him, but is from something that is an officially licensed product from Atlus, in lieu of an official name, is good enough), and they frankly sound a lot better than "Persona 4 Protagonist," easily the laziest way we could write that.  All we need to do is put a disclaimer on the page that notes that this is only a semi-official name, and--surprise!--we already do.

My vote is to stick with Souji Seta; it's been around for longer and a lot of the community has taken to that name, so changing it to Yu makes no sense.  And no, don't add Charlie as an alias.  I mean, yes, that is his real name, and we all know that.  But don't be stupid guys, come on.
#19 Posted by mutha3 (4986 posts) -
@iAmJohn said:
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My vote is to stick with Souji Seta; it's been around for longer and a lot of the community has taken to that name, so changing it to Yu makes no sense.
"
I think this is going to change once that P4 anime comes out, though.

If we're not naming it to "Persona 4 main character", I think "Yu" is the second best option. It feels more official to me because the Persona team is more involved with the anime than the manga. 
#20 Posted by dungbootle (2458 posts) -

He should just be Protagonist (Persona 4).

#21 Posted by Poki3 (527 posts) -
@dungbootle said:
He should just be Protagonist (Persona 4).
This.
Narukami Yu is being used in both the fighting game and the anime so IMHO that's a close second, but he has no name in the original material, as do most Shin Megami Tensei protagonists.
#22 Posted by BAM (16 posts) -

This thread was created five months ago, when he had no canon name. Now, though, the P4 fighter has confirmed that Yu Narukami is his canon name, so this page's name should be changed to that.

#23 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19372 posts) -

Yes, the page's name should now be "Yu Narukami".

#24 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11306 posts) -

I still think his name should be Charlie, or something like Persona 4's Main Character. Why should his name in the anime be his name here? This is a video game site, not an anime site. That's what Anime Vice is for.

#25 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19372 posts) -

@MooseyMcMan said:

I still think his name should be Charlie, or something like Persona 4's Main Character. Why should his name in the anime be his name here? This is a video game site, not an anime site. That's what Anime Vice is for.

His name in the fighting game is "Yu Narukami". It is now his official name.

#26 Edited by kingzetta (4307 posts) -

I been trying to change it for months
 
or Reginald Starfire

#27 Edited by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

Well he should just be "The Protagonist" but because that can also be said about a lot of wser created characters that don´t have a pseudo name ( like Shepard or the Vault Dweler) ,I think it would the best to call him Yu Narukami , Souji is his canon name for the manga but this is a videogame wiki so sticking to Yu seems more proper given that´s his name for the P4 Ultimate videogame

#28 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11306 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

I still think his name should be Charlie, or something like Persona 4's Main Character. Why should his name in the anime be his name here? This is a video game site, not an anime site. That's what Anime Vice is for.

His name in the fighting game is "Yu Narukami". It is now his official name.

You just wait until they localize it for the US and they call him Charlie! JUST WAIT AND SEE! [Insert maniacal laughter here]

#29 Posted by Hailinel (25179 posts) -

@AngelN7 said:

Well he should just be "The Protagonist" but because that can also be said about a lot of wser created characters that don´t have a pseudo name ( like Shepard or the Vault Dweler) ,I think it would the best to call him Yu Narukami , Souji is his canon name for the manga but this is a videogame wiki so sticking to Yu seems more proper given that´s his name for the P4 Ultimate videogame

If the page isn't renamed to Yu Narukami, it should be Protagonist (Persona 4). Naming the page simply "The Protagonist" is just setting it up to be confused with numerous other "Protagonist" pages.

#30 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

@Hailinel: Oh sure The Persona 3 protagonist is also "the Protagonist" so it should be specified by game in case there´s a name change , also do the avatars of Monster Hunter games have a name? or are they just "the hunter".

#31 Posted by Hailinel (25179 posts) -
#32 Posted by TheMasterDS (2084 posts) -

I think the best name for this character would be "Mysterious Transfer Student."

#33 Posted by MaxxS (204 posts) -

Is there any reason Charlie Tunoku isn't an alias?

#34 Posted by Baillie (4245 posts) -

It's not his alias. People need to understand this isn't a Giant Bomb centric wiki, it's a video game wiki. You don't see Commander Shepard with a million aliases of all the names the users gave him/her.

#35 Posted by Turambar (6813 posts) -
@MaxxS said:

Is there any reason Charlie Tunoku isn't an alias?

Inside jokes don't belong on the wiki outside of the trivia section.
#36 Posted by AxleBro (798 posts) -

its yu narukami now!

#37 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3066 posts) -

He'll always be Charlie to me, but I would agree that it should be "Persona 4's Protagonist" or something like it.

#38 Posted by Brackynews (4094 posts) -

Segata Soujiro. DEAL WITH IT. ;p

But I'm glad this has been (mostly) settled (for now) at least (probably).

#39 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11306 posts) -

Why are people still commenting here? Why?! Shouldn't this thread be locked by now?

#40 Posted by SanoNakamura (1 posts) -

Mmkay to end this once and for all!! His name is nothing, it will always be nothing he is a blank slate, that's how it is supposed to be! If you give him a name they have to have inner turmoil. The mc can't go without a personality if he has a name, if this name "Yu Narukami" was indeed canon he should of had this name in the first game the original. But why all of a sudden a arcade game is canon? If they wanted something to be canon make a squeal in the same style as the first game dumbasses. This name is not canon and will never be canon, so that is the end of this because an arcade game is not and I repeat not a good way to continue a series. Blazblue is the only arcade game that works since it was an arcade to begin with.

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