@ichthy:That call back was predictable the moment you see the mountains on the background. I Teared a bit.
@justin258: They do sorta of explain that when Goku recruits 17. The fundamental reason is that Dr. Gero created basically 2 identical androids, made from assimilating humans with Tech. thats why 18 can have babies, cause the only thing Krillin asked for was to remove the bombs inside 17/18. Since they are made from humans if they had followed to train after being awoke they could have reached the same strength Goku shows in SSJBlue. This is why 17 is so much stronger than 18, and paired with their Endless Energy pool, he can pretty much be the strongest fighter from their universe (in a long run).
This whole arc was cool but at some moments disappointing. I liked Califa and Jiren. But since they had to stretch this as much as they could they pin Goku against most of the strongest fighters making him waste stamina as the match goes on. TBH its incredible how he still remains standing throughout all that. As for 17 showing up in the end, they should have do better with that. It was a great moment when you hear the Great priest announce 17 sacrificed himself to give Goku and Vegeta a chance, but i guess since he is an android and he doesnt emit "life signs", the Great Priest might have made a mistake?!
At the end I got to see what i hoped to see. The moment Freeza got offscreen a few episodes back, and after 17 sacrifice, i hoped Goku would go out of bonds with Jiren and make Freeza win being the solo fighter in the arena at the end. But they brought back 17 so when Freeza gets to be a "good" guy for once I kinda enjoyed it. The tag team strats were fenomenal and the "throw me! " where Frieza lands that Rush move, shown also against Goku's 20x kamehameha during Namek, was also a great callback too.
Lets say I'm excited to watch the movie on December
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