I heard The Orange Box has some pretty difficult achievements on the 360, but I can only imagine, just looking at the Steam achievements that TF2 got, you get a good idea as to how difficult Valve makes them.

A major problem with the Orange Box has to do with the actual score of the achievements not equaling out to something practical. When I finally labored to get the Portal all Gold achievement (Apature Science) I believe that the score is only about 40g's, pathetic to the amount of time you have to put into that thing. This is of course due to the fact that five games have been squeezed onto a disk and Microsoft wants retail games to cap at 1000.

Defining poor achievements is pretty difficult. Not having cascading achievements is defiantly poor. Certain early 360 games that just unlocked stuff while you played (King Kong.) wasn't exactly smart. While others like Avatar are completely laughable. You really have to hit a good balance of simply playing the game and challenging. I think it's always a poor concept that if your achievement breaks the fundamentals on how a game is supposed to be played. Having that insaneness of grabbing a lawn gnome throughout ep2 is fun for a second playthough, not so much a first. And when it comes to multiplayer: watching ranked lone wolves matches in Halo 3 turn into achievement grinds became bothersome.

Another annoyance is when games have afterthought multiplayer components (The Darkness/Overlord) and then proceed to have achievements that require an insane about of grinding.

God damn F.E.A.R's achievements were all fucking ridiculous. :@

The EA sports 07 games had rock hard achievements. The 06 games had super easy achievements. Although they found the right balance in the 08 games.

I heard that Airbender game's achievements can all be done in about 30 seconds. Kinda goes against the point of achievements, so I'd say that's a pretty bad one.

As Beaudman said, Avatar has the worst achievements as far as making achievements kind of a game with in the game.

If we are going for worst achievements as far as difficulty I would definitely go with
Call Of Duty 4 - Mile High Club - Very difficult in my opinion.

"I heard The Orange Box has some pretty difficult achievements on the 360, but I can only imagine, just looking at the Steam achievements that TF2 got, you get a good idea as to how difficult Valve makes them."

Exit, that game can fuck off. I also hated Assassin's creed.

Blue Dragon and the Guitar Heros. Completely stupid.

I hate Guitar Heros achievements.

As I'm a sad person with no friends, it's a bummer that so many of Rock Band's achievements are focused on completing the World Tour mode.

Way to go Harmonix, thanks for reminding me that I'm a pathetic loser.

:p

"God damn F.E.A.R's achievements were all fucking ridiculous. :@
"

Eternal Sonata

I think poor achievements, in my short experience with the Xbox 360, can be defined as the ones that require a larger investment of time than the game is worth, and ones that give you too many points for just progressing the story/game.

Assassin's Creed is a good example of bad achievements....most of the achievements in that game boiled down to "playing through the story," (which was worth over half) "ran around this incredibly labyrinthine world looking for every last flag and templar for 50 hours if you don't cheat via the Internet," and "made the game suck by forcing yourself to climb up every single last fucking tower before you moved on to assassinations."

The game that came with my system, Hexic, has some shitty achievements I think, like "played 100 games of Hexic." Mostly that's just sour grapes though, since I know I'll never be good enough at the game to get the absolutely insane combos needed to get the other points.

Blue Dragon, I have spent around 50 hours in that game and only got 25 points...

Geometry Wars survive 1,000,000 points is still alluding me!

Madden NFL 06, a monkey could think of better achievements than those.

"Madden NFL 06, a monkey could think of better achievements than those."

Didn't the first GRAW have achievements like 'Reach number 1 on ranked games' and 'become the best clan' and stuff like that

Avatar's achievements are ridiculously easy, an I'm not going to play it like an achievement-whore just for an easy 1000 points.

"I think Fight night had some pretty plain achievements. But they were easy as hell to get."

Dead or Alive Xtreme 2... waaay too time consuming. And it's not even fun to try and get the achievements. -_-

at least in reference to Steam achievements, most of the ones from Episode 2 seemed to be unavoidable as you progressed.

Guitar Hero 3's and Guitar Hero Aerosmith's. GH3's were very hard, whereas GHA's were insanely easy, leaving very little replay value.

GH 3.

Ive finished the game on two difficulties and played a bit of online and i have like 30 points or something.

Seriously, cmon.

GH3, I gave up. There, I said it.

Ninety-Nine Nights. This is because you need to beat the game at least 7 times, then to level everyone up to full, that's probably at least doubling that number.Oh and getting an A ranking on everything, that will take some time.

"GH 3.

Ive finished the game on two difficulties and played a bit of online and i have like 30 points or something.

Seriously, cmon.
"

It's easily Avatar since they take no skill and take the challenge of achievements away. I also found Madden 08 to be messed up since you could get many achievements by simply simming games.

"God damn F.E.A.R's achievements were all fucking ridiculous. :@
"

Guitar Hero 3's are very hard and don't give enough points. I've been playing it since Christmas and only have 210 points on it

I don't think hard means they're bad.

Avatar: The Last Airbender - those are lame achievements

That GH3 Achievement "Blowin' It" was a a big middle finger to me =/

I think they should get rid of online achievements. Co-op achievements are fine, but online multiplayer achievements just force everyone to boost until they become pointless.

id say the worst achievements are blue dragon those are hard to get and take a long time

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Doesn't FFXI on 360 have like achievements to get classes to max level? That seems fairly shitty to me.

I agree with GH3.  I've had it since it released and I have a little less than 200 GS from it still. 

"I agree with GH3.  I've had it since it released and I have a little less than 200 GS from it still. "

I think that any form of online-based multiplayer achievements are my biggest pet peeve.

Dead or Alive 4

Wall of Text Condemning Online Multiplayer Achievements.

I also agree with the dislike towards MP achievements. It doesn't add longevity or fun...it just makes online games boring since people are just trying to get achievements.

I really do think Developers should start eliminating Co-Op and Multilayer Achievements (unless the ones in Multi-Player can be gained via bot matches or Single-Player.) One thing I loved about Halo 3 was how I didn't have to play Co-Op campaign to get achievementsm, however if I did it still unlocked them like they would if I was playing by myself. Multi-Player achievements just seem to ruin the game.

I would say Prey,FEAR, or Madden '06.But I want to say something that people haven't mentioned and that would be WWE Smackdown vs. Raw '08's achievements.They were so buggy that when I'd win the GM of the Year Award I'd never get the achievement and also the achievement where you have to chokeslam an opponent onto stairs was incredibly frustrating.

"I would say Prey,FEAR, or Madden '06.But I want to say something that people haven't mentioned and that would be WWE Smackdown vs. Raw '08's achievements.They were so buggy that when I'd win the GM of the Year Award I'd never get the achievement and also the achievement where you have to chokeslam an opponent onto stairs was incredibly frustrating."

GH3 is stupid as heck...
I played GH2 the other day... 1 playthrough on Hard, i have exactly the same amount of gamer points than i do from playing GH3 in easy, medium, hard, co-op and online etc... I started a thread awhile ago about which games have the easiest and Avatar was the easiest game by far with 2 minutes for 1000 gamer points.

The Hardest... i duno... but GH3 would definitely be up there...

DOA Xtreme 2
Impossible to get points.