Do you think there will be separate review scores for PC and console? Guessing 5 star for PC and 4 star for console due to reduced player count and graphical differences. What is your guess.
Battlefield 3
Game » consists of 15 releases. Released Oct 25, 2011
Battlefield 3 is DICE's third numerical installment in the Battlefield franchise. It features a single player and co-operative campaign, as well as an extensive multiplayer component.
Review score predictions
@EuanDewar said:
What do you care? You already know you want this game. At least that's what I've gathered from your sometimes perplexing posts.
There is a bridge over there. Go under it, back to your post.
It may be those scores, but reviews don't (or at least they aren't supposed to) work like that. Just because a game looks worse on console, and has a lower player count, doesn't mean it'll get a worse score. They score it for the respective system even though they will acknowledge the differences, but if it looks great, and the multiplayer stacks up well to other console games, there shouldn't be any difference in score.
@squirrelnacho said:
@EuanDewar said:
What do you care? You already know you want this game. At least that's what I've gathered from your sometimes perplexing posts.
There is a bridge over there. Go under it, back to your post.
Or, you could, you know.
Answer my question. In a sensible manner.
@Branthog said:
BF3 is going to get four stars.
MW3 is going to get four stars.
Uncharted is going to get four stars.
Skyrim is going to get five stars.
4 for Uncharted 3? Pshaw, sir. Nathan Drake will do better than that. Otherwise, that seems about right.
@jasondaplock said:
@Branthog said:
BF3 is going to get four stars.
MW3 is going to get four stars.
Uncharted is going to get four stars.
Skyrim is going to get five stars.
4 for Uncharted 3? Pshaw, sir. Nathan Drake will do better than that. Otherwise, that seems about right.
I think the "we've been to this rodeo twice before" thing will turn it into a four. A five, if they do something really new and amazing in it. (Also, I hope they're done with the stupid "look, mythical blue monsters!" crap).
BF3 and MW3 will both get the same score, no matter what, to appease people on both sides. Skyrim is going to get five, because Skyrim.
I'm guessing four on Saints Row 3, too, but I think that largely depends on who at GB is reviewing it.
I'm a little worried just because EA won't send review copies to most publications until "early next week". So we won't have a GB review until thursday or friday I'm guessing. Hopefully it's just because EA wants reviewers to play multiplayer after street date. Anyway, my guess is 4/5 if Jeff reviews it.
I think Battlefield will get 4 stars. It's story is going to be competing with the action-packed feel of MW3, so...par for the course. The multiplayer will be fun if you have a team who focuses on winning, but if you want to have a private match, or like playing solo with randoms, it sounds like your out of luck. The reason I say you can't havea private match is this quote from an interview on the BF3 forums:
"Question: Will it be possible to practice flying without having to be in an active multiplayer server? Such as a large training map or something of the sorts so people can hone their skills in the flying vehicles?
Lars: Nothing in the game at launch, sadly.
@Branthog: I agree that MW3 and BF3 will get 4 stars, but because both of them are just competent and fun FPSs. Neither of them are doing anything revolutionary. I'm patiently awaiting Uncharted, I could easily see it getting 5 Stars if it's builds exceedingly well upon 2.
I have too much hype for Skyrim to say it could get a 4.
I am actually pretty curious about how the game will turn out. I own all the platforms it is coming to, so I will wait and see if it is any good and which platform it is best on. I assume the PC version will be the superior version. But, stranger things have happened lately in the PC world. If the game seems kind of median on all platforms, with the exception of the player count and graphics, I will probably go 360. I just know more people that game on the 360 than I do PC or PS3.
I am hoping for a 4 star. I think a 5 star review is doubtful at best.
I don't know man. From the sheer impact of marketing (the acidly poisonous one-upmanship leveled at COD, notwithstanding) I already know that I'm getting this game, so no review is going to sway in one way or another. Judging the game on its own terms and merits, a rating witihn the range of 4-5 seems plausible, so long as that multiplayer anchors the totality of the experience.
Regardless of the quality of the game, somebody's gonna give it 10/10. That's how the industry works.
The PC version will be the one getting reviewed just about everywhere by the looks of it. The DICE offices are at a sick crunch period that can burn people out to get this Day One patch out ASAP.
So.. graphics will get good scores at least. SP will probably get points for audiovisual design but docked off for not being full-on retard mode COD action. MP will get high scores from anybody able to get into it, mentally. MP will get bad scores from reviews who cry and beg for "PRES BUTAN TO HIDE BEHIND COVAR" gameplay. It will also fail to sell anything like a recent COD game. It will most likely not receive awards for technical sound design and graphics.
These predictions will come true.
Sounds about rightJeff will give it a 6.0
"Battlefield 3 has a lot of promise, but nothing in this game works out nearly as well as you'd hope."
4 stars.
BF3 will ship with a single player that can not hold up against other single player focused games.
@Branthog said:
@jasondaplock said:
@Branthog said:
BF3 is going to get four stars.
MW3 is going to get four stars.
Uncharted is going to get four stars.
Skyrim is going to get five stars.
4 for Uncharted 3? Pshaw, sir. Nathan Drake will do better than that. Otherwise, that seems about right.
I think the "we've been to this rodeo twice before" thing will turn it into a four. A five, if they do something really new and amazing in it. (Also, I hope they're done with the stupid "look, mythical blue monsters!" crap).
BF3 and MW3 will both get the same score, no matter what, to appease people on both sides. Skyrim is going to get five, because Skyrim.
Pretty much I guess.
Battlefield 3 will score what it believed, under the influence of alcohol, was a hot piece of supermodel ass, only to discover upon waking the next morning that it had in fact fucked a pig.
@jasondaplock said:
@Branthog said:
BF3 is going to get four stars.
MW3 is going to get four stars.
Uncharted is going to get four stars.
Skyrim is going to get five stars.
4 for Uncharted 3? Pshaw, sir. Nathan Drake will do better than that. Otherwise, that seems about right.
Yeah the GB crew will 5 star anything with Nathan Drake in it. Not that I actually like Uncharted but I guess a lot of people do.
Guessing a metacritic average of 92% with a couple of 'politcal/attention whoring' reviews ripping BF3 for its script-fest singleplayer campaign lacking memorable characters and other equally unimportant aspects of the BF3 experience. The overwhelming majority will recognize DICE's achievements though and score it in the top 10%.
How will this game be reviewed?
"All new games that look nice, get top scores" mentality?
There is a "3" at the end of the title, which means "look back at the previous versions".
If you look back at 1942... was there any other game out there with massive maps and war on a grand scale? Was DICE trying to mimic another game? How about with BF2? These are questions that should be answered in a review I think of BF3.
With BF3, it seems like they left the playing field. Battlefield 3 is just a name that has root to a past style. If you can accept this, then you must agree EA are just using the name to get sales for a product that has moved on to an altered path. You know how some movie commercials go? "From the emmy award-winning director of XYZ, comes... dun dun dun... BLA, BLA, BLA!!" . In the common folk's mind "OMG, he made XYZ... aaaaaa!!... I'm going to go watch BLA BLA BLA too!!! OMG OMG"... Battlefield 3 is just trying to strike a cord with the past, it seems, so that people will buy it even though it has moved on from its past. It's a common strategy, it must be working.
People will argue "oh those dumb people feel they've been betrayed by DICE, how stupid". I think the 'betrayed ones' are saying "DICE told us the sky was blue and now DICE are saying the sky is green". Following this example there are many people who don't mind 'moving on' and forgetting that the sky was blue[1942, BF2, etc..], they are content with accepting that the sky is green[BF3 with a COD twist] now; they even go to lengths to attack people who still believe the sky is/was/should still blue.
I'd say I'm one of the people sticking with the 'sky is blue', but I don't feel 'betrayed'. I think EA changed up the game style because from their "telemetry data" <-- hehe --- they have found that it will give them more business, more money. I bet many of the developers at EA don't even like their game a lot, they just play it to make sure the game follows the specific "formula", the recipe if you will, that will allow them to reap loot from the masses.
Anyway.... I think if reviewers look at BF3, without looking at the past TOO MUCH, they'll say BF3 is excellent. Graphically BF3 is better than the past (it should be, right?) and it seems immersively evolved with respect to audio than the past.
But will reviewers have their attention to the gameplay of the past? Will they observe how the past Battlefield games had large open areas with massive battles; planes carpet bombing targets where you could hear the bombs scream as they approached their target; planes attacking ground targets; ground forces fearing aircraft; air vs ground; ground vs air; ground vs sea; sea vs ground; etc, etc... Battlefield 3, however, is a more consolidated experience now. It's apparently not that vast anymore, though it seems as if it could be; but it's not. Will the reviewers identify this? or will they just glaze over the past and head over to comparing it against other modern shooters.
Reviewers should reach back into the recent past to bring forward some differences with respect to the original Battlefield games. BF3 attempts to mimic COD and TF2 styles of gameplay, frequent deaths; lack of organization; many rewards [like psychological reinforcement or something]; and just mindless interactions.
[[[[[ A side comment/observation
I'm sure you guys remember in the past people would say "If you release map packs DLC, it will divide the community." You remember that? In fact I think EA has already 'divided the community' by releasing BF3 with the same name across ALL platforms. This means that whether you play on console or PC, gameplay wise, you should all have more or less the same experience. This division enters because dedicated console players have PCs, they will enter the fray and say "no you elitist PC user, the console gameplay is better; larger maps are boring".
It created a lop-sided wedge in the favor of the console players. You may read this and this and think "you are PC elitist". I feel you neglect various things, but one item in particular that is neglected is the hand the large corporate powerhouse Microsoft has in all of this. They have many billions of dollars and companies that make game for the X360 make many millions in sales. In order to publish a game on the Xbox console the game must meet certain accessibility guidelines and what not... In essence, Microsoft is defining gaming, and possibly Sony too, but mainly Microsoft. You make a game "fit" into Microsoft's standards, what are you going to do? redevelop it without those requirements for the PC? Hell no. Why waste money on that. You want to make money and thus a product that is portable. This is the reasoning. Going out of one's way to please a handful is not worth it, with their mindset.
If you look at VG charts, their pre-order chart shows barely 150,000 PC pre-orders for BF3. Some say that it is incomplete data. Give it 250,000? 300,000? for PC... that's still nothing compared to the almost 1million for X360 alone. "PC lead" my ass, who gives a shit about PC players today? Small developers. The big players want to diversify. You can't economically diversity if you make a game dedicated for the PC. I guess it's the natural path or something. When you were a kid, you rode a bicycle; you grew up and now you drive a car. It doesn't have to be that way though, you can still ride a bicycle all the time rather than a car. But they chose a car because that's what their business needs require, apparently. ]]]]
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