If it's not on Steam and it's on PC, I won't buy it.sounds pretty retarded.
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EA Launches New Digital Retail Service, Makes It the Sole Way to Purchase Star Wars: The Old Republic Online
@raiz265 said:
@wewantsthering said:If it's not on Steam and it's on PC, I won't buy it.sounds pretty retarded.
Well at least I can correctly write a sentence and not call people offensive names. :-) I guess you don't have a bunch of friends you want to play games with on Steam. I don't want to migrate all of my friends (especially my less tech savvy friends) over to a new service to play games. If that's retarded, the definition must have changed.
Will they let people download their games purchased via the service whenever they want, even years after, like Steam does, or will they be aholes about it again?In my experience, EA's pretty horrible with their DRM and downloading games. So, uh, prolly not. Which is why I won't be jumping head first into using this service, even for 'exclusive editions' of BF3. EA... EA hurt me. :(
I think it's weird that they're using the Old Republic as their service-exclusive thing. That just seems silly.
This seems like a bad idea because I'm a PC gamer, and I can't see myself going away from Steam to EA. GOG and Steam are my only sources, apart from very rare Direct2Drive purchases. The real problem is that if they charge 59.99 for PC games when they will no longer have anyone in between, I will seriously consider not buying then. I do consider myself a hardcore PC gamer, and this has not one me over. I hate having a million accounts, and having to deal with each one. Why don't you just make your own console then EA? *ughh, what a day that would be*
Because let's face it SW:TOR needs less sales.
Edit: also I really don't want to deal with a download manager for every publisher out there.
Edit2: also EA store accepts a FAR smaller variety of credit cards then Steam.
I'd like to see more publishers have the balls to do this, or at least have the balls to make buying directly the cheapest option - but some of the saving they make (by not paying a retailer cut) has to be passed on to the customer. The current market of ~£23 for retail copy delivered, £30-£35 Steam, £30-35 for a digital version direct from publisher, is broken as fuck.
Give me the option to support PC gaming by buying directly from the publisher and I will, but I'm not gonna pay over the odds for the privilege of doing so.
Single-publisher online distribution "stores" with walled-off friends lists & mobile apps are fucking stupid. I bet it requires some background client to run at startup too. More passwords, more secondary logins, more crap and BS for me to wade thru to get and play my game.
Just selling an activation code from a web site would be fine if I could do it as a guest. It's all the secondary data and metrics they sponge off you like a leech as they take your money that pisses me off. Why do I have to WORK to buy and play your games EA?
I think this will hurt the sales of TOR, but if EA really wants Origin to be significant, then they have to do this. They need to have exclusives to increase the user base.
Frankly, I'm surprised Microsoft made such a piss poor attempt with Games for Windows. They needed to put some money and muscle behind the idea like EA is obviously going for with Origin. If MS doesn't announce any updates for their PC front at E3, then they'll fall even further behind and probably not have a fighting chance again (on the PC front) until the next console wave.
they had their own online distribution for years, it sucks. steam will hold a game for life, ea's last system would only hold a digital copy of your game for a year or two. So I can never play crysis without buying it again. All of my DLC add on's for Battlefield 2. Lost forever and special forces. So EA can kiss my ass thinking I'll support this re-launch.
@137 said:
they had their own online distribution for years, it sucks. steam will hold a game for life, ea's last system would only hold a digital copy of your game for a year or two. So I can never play crysis without buying it again. All of my DLC add on's for Battlefield 2. Lost forever and special forces. So EA can kiss my ass thinking I'll support this re-launch.
Wait, is that true?
Aw fuck. I have a feeling this means Battlefield 3 will not be on Steam. Have they said otherwise?
I knew they would either re-launch the EA Store or succumb to Steam. And the latter sounded crazy since it's EA we're talking about. I hope all my EA Store/EA Downloader games I have registered are automatically unlocked in this service.
@RVonE said:
@137 said:
they had their own online distribution for years, it sucks. steam will hold a game for life, ea's last system would only hold a digital copy of your game for a year or two. So I can never play crysis without buying it again. All of my DLC add on's for Battlefield 2. Lost forever and special forces. So EA can kiss my ass thinking I'll support this re-launch.
Wait, is that true?
No. All the games I have linked with EA Downloader/EA Store are permanent. This dude is just spouting some internet legend BS. My BF2 and expansion is sitting in my games list looking right at me.
What's with all the complaining? Competition = good. Plus the new EA DLM is not too shabby and it seems like they have an even better one in beta (not to mention mobile support).In other matters you might be correct but this is a different ball game. People don't want their digital licenses all spread out on different services. It's also important to take into account that EA is a huge publisher and if they are competing with Steam it's likely they'll stop releasing and supporting games on steam to strong arm people to their new service. Take into account that EA's digital distribution platforms have sucked in the past and I think you'll understand why people are complaining and in general unexcited.
It's like EA don't want the Old Republic to be successful.
You want sales on PC, you put your shit out on Steam.
EA's previous efforts at digital distribution have been... well not so great. That and the fact that I'm too invested in Steam to want to start again with another service. Hopefully this doesn't mean the end of EA on Steam as they can put out some great PC versions of their games.
Between Steam, Desura, Impulse and Gog.com (Does that technically count?) I am content with my digital retail services. EA is shooting themselves in their own foot if they limit themselves like this.
I've already got too many digital storefronts to juggle and I only have 3: Steam, Impulse and GFW. If Microsoft has the crappiest of those 3, why would I ever trust EA to do it better? This news actually makes me happy that there is another reason to stay the fuck away from Old Republic.
Actually, he's right. At one point, the EA Store only allowed you to download things for a certain period of time. However, people bitched, and before that period was up for anyone, they changed the policy to the life policy they have today.@RVonE said:
@137 said:
they had their own online distribution for years, it sucks. steam will hold a game for life, ea's last system would only hold a digital copy of your game for a year or two. So I can never play crysis without buying it again. All of my DLC add on's for Battlefield 2. Lost forever and special forces. So EA can kiss my ass thinking I'll support this re-launch.
Wait, is that true?
No. All the games I have linked with EA Downloader/EA Store are permanent. This dude is just spouting some internet legend BS. My BF2 and expansion is sitting in my games list looking right at me.
EA is gearing up to knock Sony off the crown of being so overly self important and stubborn that they destroy themselves at every turn. The EA store was a pitiful mess of DRM and account issues to begin with. Now they're attempting to bully people into buying crap from it by forcing you to use it if you want their "special editions" (read full version of the game) and are shooting themselves in the foot by requiring Old Republic to use it, a game that was going to have issues to begin with, and who's potential player base just took a hit before the game even began from this move. For the record, yes, you can buy a boxed copy in stores, but be certain that it will still require you to sign up, install, and use their Origin bullcrap to actually play. Bonus points for the major privacy issues in this iteration of the nightmare that is the EA store as well (other users can view your personal info, including real name, and there is no privacy setting to adjust it. Additionally, the EULA states that just about everything you say and do, be it chatting, time played, or games purchased, will be sold off to third parties for advertising purposes.)
@isnipeyoudie said:
@MrKlorox said:Actually, he's right. At one point, the EA Store only allowed you to download things for a certain period of time. However, people bitched, and before that period was up for anyone, they changed the policy to the life policy they have today.@RVonE said:
@137 said:
they had their own online distribution for years, it sucks. steam will hold a game for life, ea's last system would only hold a digital copy of your game for a year or two. So I can never play crysis without buying it again. All of my DLC add on's for Battlefield 2. Lost forever and special forces. So EA can kiss my ass thinking I'll support this re-launch.
Wait, is that true?
No. All the games I have linked with EA Downloader/EA Store are permanent. This dude is just spouting some internet legend BS. My BF2 and expansion is sitting in my games list looking right at me.
@MrKlorox : Hopefully your computer came equipped with google so you could research and probably post proof I'm full of shit before making cool statements like "INTERNET LEGEND"....
hey look at this, proof you're a moron "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA_Store
@137 said:
@MrKlorox : Hopefully your computer came equipped with google so you could research and probably post proof I'm full of shit before making cool statements like "INTERNET LEGEND"....
hey look at this, proof you're a moron "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA_Store
I'm not the fucktard who paid for something for 24 months of use. You're the one making full of shit statements, fool.
You know whats a good idea? Making people jump threw hoops for a game that you need to succeed for your company to continue to exist
Seems like a bad idea. The Old Republic isn't going to get people to invest into that downloadable platform and they are going to lose potential sales on Steam. If I was actually interested in this game I would sooner buy it off Amazon before investing in this unproven platform. More so based on EA's track record for downloadable services.
I wanted TOR on Steam so that sucks.
But it's good for the PC industry (not that we're dying, ha.) that EA is paying attention to the market with some interesting ideas on their distribution methods.
Sounds like the same thing Blizzard does with their games. I'm not totally surprised; it's a pretty decent idea I suppose if you want 100% profit on digital downloads.
For ToRO it makes sense. That's generally how most MMOs try to do it- unless they arent making enough sales then they branch out. If ToRO does what EA wants it to then it will make complete sense.
Boy, they really are gambling a lot on ToRO. Bit disconcerting at this point.
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