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In with the New News, same as the Old News...

I think they have not yet found a good way to charge for the content, since they are used to it being free on the PC. It does look a bit expensive for what they are offering.

Yeah, it's totally outrageous.  I expect them to give me double the content than what's in the game for free.  The idea that they would want us to pay them to play their games is ridiculous.

Welcome to the group. lol
 
While you are going to buy left 4 dead 2 i'll get left 4 dead 1.
 
But i agree that valve is playing with our fellings. That's what happens when great titles are realeased. 
 
They get cocky with them... 
 
But when quality slips people are happy to turn their backs on them.

Valve wanted to offer the 360 dlc for free but either they or microsoft said they shouldn't be getting special treatment with free dlc.  if they offer cross platform gameplay (they haven't confirmed or denied it yet right) then i bet a lot of people will still play L4D1. Also all the people that are mad at valve and don't get L4D2 will still play the first game.
Kudos on drawing up a budget for what games you can afford, i wish i was that wise with my money.

I dunno I downloaded it off Steam when I logged on earlier, haven't played it yet.
 
Do like I do and buy all your Valve games on PC. It's where they're meant to be played. Also you'll always get free updates.
Buy any other games like MW2 or SFIV on console or PC but only buy Valve games on PC. That's my rule of thumb.

You should change your name to LoveSweep. It has a nice ring to it. I might write up a gaming budget if i had any money to spend but...nah

Blame it on Microsoft?
 
It's obviously meant to be free content... Just not on the 360.

Oh and PC users get it free.

Sweep I like you, you know this, I know this. But you are sorely misguided with your hatred for Valve.
 
It's Microsoft that set the price for DLC, it is Microsoft that demand DLC be given a price and not for free and it is Microsoft who you should be directing the blame at. Valve have stated many times they would give the DLC for free to 360 players if they could find a way around Microsoft's insistence over pricing it. There isn't much Valve can do other than choose not to release the DLC on the 360 and then people would cry about not being given the chance at enjoying any DLC for the game. 
 
There is no denying the PC community for Valve games outnumbers that of the 360 so the developer focuses on the platform where most of its playerbase is. That is the sad and honest truth and it is a common occurrence within the video game industry as many a PC gamer can tell you, we get shafted daily when it comes to DLC releases for most games. Sure we usually get them for free but at the expense of delays by months upon months.
 
At the end of the day you can either choose to purchase the DLC or choose not too. Given your previous feelings about Valve I would have thought you might just be patient and see what people had to say about the new DLC.
 
I understand your frustration over paying for DLC you feel is not worth the price tag, it is something I often feel when it comes to the price of games in general. Specifically now that I have a PS3 and find myself far less inclined to play £15 more for a console game than I do a PC game. But this entire situation with DLC prices and the way Microsoft handles it will never change, not now after it has been enforced for such a long time it has become somewhat of an industry standard.
 
I also question why you didn't bother buying the PC version of L4D now that it has a 50% price discount to coincide with the Crash Course DLC.....

It was a budget release to begin with, it's not like you paid 60 dollars for it. You should have gotten it on PC, the DLC is free as usual. Blame MS.

And since I have the PC version, I totally heart Valve.  Sucks for you. 
 
But don't worry, I still heart you, Sweep.

As Hamz said, if you want to hate something, hate Microsoft not Valve. Its completely free on Steam, the way it would be on the 360 if microsoft allowed it, but they dont. I thought this was common sense at this point.

We should have known from Orange Box that Valve would primarily focus on the PC version of Left 4 Dead, which makes sense.  I'm not going to buy the DLC not because I object to paying for it, but because I barely play Left 4 Dead anymore.   
 
Don't get me wrong I loved Left 4 Dead and I defended it's lack of content, but eventually it became boring.  

@Br3adfan said:

"We should have known from Orange Box that Valve would primarily focus on the PC version of Left 4 Dead, which makes sense.  I'm not going to buy the DLC not because I object to paying for it, but because I barely play Left 4 Dead anymore.    Don't get me wrong I loved Left 4 Dead and I defended it's lack of content, but eventually it became boring.   "

This. 
I'm probably gonna pass on the DLC simply because with new games coming out every few weeks ramping up to the release of L4D2, I'm just not sure when I'd ever get a chance to play it.  I personally never begrudge Valve for the content on the 360.  They gave me the Half-Life 2 saga (which I'd never played), Portal, and what my ignorant self calls Team Fortress 2 for sixty dollars.  I have no complaints about what they do.

I understand. However, the blame can also be given to Microsoft, who insists that Valve make people pay for content. However, $7 is far too much for a half campaign. $5 maybe. Moral of the story? Buy Valve games on the PC because they will screw you over on consoles. 
 
Alternatively, the moral is that Valve should make more content for their game before they release it, which is why everyone is so up in arms about L4D2.

Uh yeah everything Hamz said.

This is actually more Microsoft's fault, but if Msoft are gonna be touting Left 4 Dead as a great 360-console exclusive, they need to let Valve do what they do best: make people freaking happy.

I don't understand why Valve has to be forced to charge for their DLC. Microsoft let Burnout and Batman:AA have free DLC, why not L4D?

You should have got it for the PC, where it's free.
 
Not that I agree with this new trend Valve has started.

valve doesn't owe you anything.

" I also question why you didn't bother buying the PC version of L4D now that it has a 50% price discount to coincide with the Crash Course DLC..... "

Microsoft Are Really Starting To Piss Me Off

Im buying L4D2 and I cant wait
L4D1 was awesome !

" @Hamz: More often than not, people don't have good enough PCs to run the game at its highest possible detail. That might be the biggest reason why L4D sold quite well on the consoles. While I can understand why Valve has to charge for this DLC, I'm still a little ticked off about the way its done when compared to the PC version. Personally, I bought a pretty decent gaming laptop about 3 years ago with a beefy 7900 GT (best card available at the time) for all my gaming and college needs. But that thing is showing its age now and I can barely run games like Batman:AA on it without lowering all the details. Compare this to the X360, which ironically has the same video card as my laptop but runs Batman:AA at its highest detail with a constant 60 fps. It just comes down to what gives me a better game experience for the most reasonable price and more often than not, its on the console. "

" I dunno I downloaded it off Steam when I logged on earlier, haven't played it yet.  Do like I do and buy all your Valve games on PC. It's where they're meant to be played. Also you'll always get free updates. Buy any other games like MW2 or SFIV on console or PC but only buy Valve games on PC. That's my rule of thumb. "

Your problem is with Microsoft because Valve wanted to keep the DLC free but MS didn't want them to.

It isn't Valve's doing, but Microsoft's. It's completely free on steam, and pretty awesome if only because of that (support ftw). Besides, even though being only half the length (30 mins) of a normal campaign, it's pretty intense, there's a reason guns are lying all over the place. I like it a lot, but Microsoft's scam tactic is exactly why I didn't buy it on 360. (And you don't need a great graphics card to run this, source is old and solid.) 

" And since I have the PC version, I totally heart Valve.  Sucks for you.  But don't worry, I still heart you, Sweep. "

"Blame it on Microsoft?  It's obviously meant to be free content... Just not on the 360. "

yeah it was my understanding that M$ didn't even want the FIRST l4d DLC to be free, and the first dlc update was much better than the newest one.  i agree with everyone else, the blame needs to be on M$

I want to believe that charging for the 360 DLC is all Microsoft's problem, but I see plenty of other free DLC out there, and I think Valve has the push to demand that their content be free, if they truly wanted it to be. And honestly, the Left 4 Dead DLC is not worth paying money for.

You should petition
 
 
 
 
lol

Anyone ever thought that MS is the one deciding the price?

u should have bought it on the PC. microsoft thinks that everything should cost money when it is free on the PC. i bought left 4 dead on the 360, i should have got it on the pc.  i played it i said i should have got it on the PC instead of the 360. 

I think it's to do with Microsoft not allowing achievements on free DLC and Valve wanting the achievements in... Bit pointless if that is true as the achievements in Valves 360 games tend to be a bit glitchy... 
 
One thing I would say is the 360 version is supposedly less prone to lag than the PC version, although you can get user created content for the PC version.  They both have their pro's and cons, 560 points isn't a massive price - particularly if you picked up L4D for £10 off Ebay.