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    President and CEO of Gearbox Software.

    Randy Pitchford wishes he could make a game half as good as Valve

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    #1  Edited By Whisperkill

    Honestly the more I hear coming out of this guy's mouth the more he sounds like an idiot. I mean, where is he even coming from. How can someone who hasn't made a game anywhere near the quality of a Valve game yell at the company that made him.
     
    Kind of an asshole. 
     
    Edit: This is in regards to him talking about Valve acting like fanboys against the PS3 and how their involvement with steam is exploiting publishers.
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    #2  Edited By ieatlions

    Ive enjoyed borderlands more than ive enjoyed the two valve games iv played.

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    #3  Edited By natetodamax

    Randy Pitchford is more of a fucking man than you will ever be, Mr. Whisperkill. His words are orgasmic.

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    #4  Edited By Jimbo

    wat

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    #5  Edited By W0lfbl1tzers
    @Jimbo said:
    " wat "
    I, too, am confused.
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    #6  Edited By Winternet

    Where can we find these statements?

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    #7  Edited By sjschmidt93

    Why does complementing a video game company make you an asshole?

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    #8  Edited By HayFourZee

    I dont see how hes insulting valve by saying that.

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    #9  Edited By InsanePotato

    Maybe if Randys company had a PR department that actually communicated with the 1000's of annoyed and frustrated PC players of borderlands i'd find it easier to not knock him. But Borderlands desperately needs patching, no gamespy, no rediculous need for port forwarding which doesn't seem to have 100% success rate, a fixed menu system for the PC that is a direct console rip and which doesn't require editing of config files for exceptionally simple stuff (vsync, push to talk mic, aiming and crouching toggles, mouse smoothing)  and numerous other bugs and glitches fixed (watching a hunter use 100 of those birds at once completing unbalancing the game is annoying as hell).
    It's a shame because i really WANT to love this game. They're making it bloody hard though!
     
    Randy needs to stfu and stop dissing on people like Gabe Newell and Steam. Gabe's ongoing comments about the PS3 probably aren't wise but the man is still in a total other class of developers than Randy.

    Edit: PC Forums if you need a nice example of the ongoing chaos of this unpolished port.
     http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93

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    #10  Edited By Whisperkill

    I edited to make my statement clearer.
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    He called Valve childish in their arguments not to put out L4D2 on PS3
    Source 
     
    He also earlier said that Valves close relationship with Steam was a conflict of interest.

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    #12  Edited By Diamond

    I hated Randy in the past, but lately his comments are making me like him.  He's stirring up the bees nest by disturbing the status quo and making people question themselves.  Problem is most people are idiots, and both developers and fans are jumping down his throat time and time again.  He might not be 100% right on his points, but he's making some interesting discussion.  Problem once again is, people don't want to destroy their fragile worldviews by contemplating the points he's raising.

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    #13  Edited By demonbear

    Valve fanboy alert.

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    #14  Edited By Bwast
    @InsanePotato said:
    " Maybe if Randys company had a PR department that actually communicated with the 1000's of annoyed and frustrated PC players of borderlands i'd find it easier to not knock him. But Borderlands desperately needs patching, no gamespy, no rediculous need for port forwarding which doesn't seem to have 100% success rate, a fixed menu system for the PC that is a direct console rip and which doesn't require editing of config files for exceptionally simple stuff (vsync, push to talk mic, aiming and crouching toggles, mouse smoothing)  and numerous other bugs and glitches fixed (watching a hunter use 100 of those birds at once completing unbalancing the game is annoying as hell).It's a shame because i really WANT to love this game. They're making it bloody hard though!   Randy needs to stfu and stop dissing on people like Gabe Newell and Steam. Gabe's ongoing comments about the PS3 probably aren't wise but the man is still in a total other class of developers than Randy.Edit: PC Forums if you need a nice example of the ongoing chaos of this unpolished port.  http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93 "
    This.
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    #15  Edited By kashif1
    @demonbear said:
    " Valve fanboy alert. "
    QFT
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    #16  Edited By Andorski

    MAINSTREAM'D !!!

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    #17  Edited By roofy

    socially i enjoyed borderlands more than L4D.

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    #18  Edited By Ironknight

    Well Randy is right in a way Valve is very fanboyish they could have just said we are not developing for the ps3 and be done with it. Also Valves close relationship to steam is a conflict of interest. So I don't see a problem valve does make good games but there quite overrated

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    #19  Edited By djstyles92

    Randy Pitchford is a sexy man, therefore your argument is invalid

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    #20  Edited By HypoXenophobia
    @Ironknight:
    I agree with you completely. It's quite annoying seeing random press releases from Valve on how they're not developing for the ps3. I would imagine Gabe's previous job at Microsoft led to that deep seated bias. But, I guess since Valve found a way to make DRM easily digestable(Steam), companies avoid from biting the hand that feed.
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    #21  Edited By Red

    Valve is an incredible developer. They just aren't that good at being incredible every year or two.  
     
     
    Also: their lack of a PS3 development team comes across more as lazy than as fanboys.

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    #22  Edited By EvilTwin
    @Whisperkill said:
    " Honestly the more I hear coming out of this guy's mouth the more he sounds like an idiot. I mean, where is he even coming from. How can someone who hasn't made a game anywhere near the quality of a Valve game yell at the company that made him."
    What does the quality of their respective games have to do with his statements? 
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    #23  Edited By TheMustacheHero
    @Ironknight said:
    " Well Randy is right in a way Valve is very fanboyish they could have just said we are not developing for the ps3 and be done with it. Also Valves close relationship to steam is a conflict of interest. So I don't see a problem valve does make good games but there quite overrated "
    Why can't Valve have a close relation with Steam? THEY MADE STEAM!
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    #24  Edited By bubahula
    @djstyles92 said:
    "Randy Pitchford is a sexy man, therefore your argument is invalid "
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    #25  Edited By Adamantium

    He's right.
     
     
    Borderlands is great fun, too.

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    #26  Edited By demontium
    @Whisperkill: I hope you get grounded or something bad happens to you. 
     
    Randy is a genius, and Borderlands is about par with the enjoyment I got out of TF2..... 
     
    He is just being humble. 
     
    And BLands is selling most on the Xbox so Valve did not make him. 
     
    And where did you get this info?
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    #27  Edited By Absurd
    @InsanePotato: :o I had a ton of fun with the PC version of Borderlands.
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    #28  Edited By buzz_killington

    Well he is right. They keep bashing the PS3 hardware for no good reason. There are tonnes of developers making superb games on the PS3, and only cause Valve cannot figure out how to do it, doesn't mean that there is a fault with the hardware.

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    #30  Edited By Jeffsekai

    Oh man, too bad Borderlands is better than anything Valve has put out in the last year.

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    #31  Edited By Ironknight
    @TheMustacheHero said:
    " @Ironknight said:
    " Well Randy is right in a way Valve is very fanboyish they could have just said we are not developing for the ps3 and be done with it. Also Valves close relationship to steam is a conflict of interest. So I don't see a problem valve does make good games but there quite overrated "
    Why can't Valve have a close relation with Steam? THEY MADE STEAM! "
    I'm not saying that its wrong for them to have a close relationship but it is a conflict of interest. 
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    #32  Edited By azteris

    Randy Pitchford has made some intelligent points on why it's bad that the distribution service for most games has a vested interest in certain games doing well.
     
    Gabe Newell acts like a man child because no one calls him out on it. Just because you helped make Half-Life doesn't mean you get to throw hissy fits publicly. He shouldn't be given all the press he is given, but then you have all these sites trying to be 'comprehensive' or just trying to incite page views through inflamatory stories. 
     
    This doesn't even begin to talk about the fanboy style of thinking that also enables him. Making a good game does not mean you have to revere these people.
     
    EDIT: Grammar.

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    I think I enjoy Borderlands more then anything since the Orange Box.

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    #34  Edited By JoelTGM

    I like Valve and I like Randy Pitchford, and the fact he has an opinion about Valve doesn't change anything.

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    #35  Edited By Knives
    @Jeffsekai said:

    " Oh man, too bad Borderlands is better than anything Valve has put out in the last year. "

    Valve has only put out one game in the last year. Why not just say "too bad Borderlands is better than Left 4 Dead"?
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    #36  Edited By Knives
    @Ironknight said:
    " @TheMustacheHero said:
    " @Ironknight said:
    " Well Randy is right in a way Valve is very fanboyish they could have just said we are not developing for the ps3 and be done with it. Also Valves close relationship to steam is a conflict of interest. So I don't see a problem valve does make good games but there quite overrated "
    Why can't Valve have a close relation with Steam? THEY MADE STEAM! "
    I'm not saying that its wrong for them to have a close relationship but it is a conflict of interest.  "
    I don't see how it's a conflict of interest. The more people using Steam the better, whether it be for Valve games or someone else.
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    #37  Edited By mordukai

    The excuses are wearing thin (which is kinda ironic since Gabe is doing the exact opposite). First it was hardware, then lack of people, then lack of money and now because Valve thinks the PSN community is not good enough for them. I mean seriously. I would have much more respect for them if they just came out and said that they just don't want to work on the ps3 because they just don't fucking want to do it.

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    @Mordukai said:
    " The excuses are wearing thin (which is kinda ironic since Gabe is doing the exact opposite). First it was hardware, then lack of people, then lack of money and now because Valve thinks the PSN community is not good enough for them. I mean seriously. I would have much more respect for them if they just came out and said that they just don't want to work on the ps3 because they just don't fucking want to do it. "
    Plus now if they work with the PS3 in the future with all the shit they said who will want to buy the product, it could just as well be a lazy Orange Box port again.
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    #39  Edited By FCKSNAP
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    #40  Edited By azteris

    I don't see why the games they made have to be representative of their character as people. Randy Pitchford is looking out for the consumer by drawing attention to conflicting interests. Gabe Newell whines about difficulty doing his job.

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    @diamond said:

    I hated Randy in the past, but lately his comments are making me like him. He's stirring up the bees nest by disturbing the status quo and making people question themselves. Problem is most people are idiots, and both developers and fans are jumping down his throat time and time again. He might not be 100% right on his points, but he's making some interesting discussion. Problem once again is, people don't want to destroy their fragile worldviews by contemplating the points he's raising.

    Well Randy is right in a way Valve is very fanboyish they could have just said we are not developing for the ps3 and be done with it. Also Valves close relationship to steam is a conflict of interest. So I don't see a problem valve does make good games but there quite overrated

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