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You Will Never Be This Good At Street Fighter

Japan's number one player Daigo Umehara is laying it down against other top-ranked fighters on video in Street Fighter IV.

The Escapist's Jared Rea (MrJared to you and me) tipped me off to a post over on the NeoGAF forums collecting a series of recorded Street Fighter IV matches between Daigo Umehara, the number one SFIV player in Japan based on in-game ranking, and a list of other top Japanese players. I have fun playing Street Fighter games because I know how to do most of the moves and have a vague sense of which jump kicks have higher priorities on which characters. But these dudes are just on a whole different plane of skill.

  


The NeoGAF post has more match-ups against Crimson Viper, Bison, Sagat, Chun-Li, and others.

It seems first-person shooters have gotten the most attention in the competitive gaming world, but for my money I find fighting game matches between skilled players the most exciting and technically interesting to watch. Certainly they're closer to an actual spectator sport, in my mind. There's much more depth there than you might realize from watching a single match. Here's an excerpt from an eye-opening IM conversation Jared and I had (edited into paragraph form) that reveals a little of that depth.

Me: Did they really differentiate Ryu and Ken that much in Street Fighter 3?

Him:
Yeah, Third Strike is probably where they have the biggest differences. Major differences in their normals, all their specials act differently and have different properties, totally different super arts. But the biggest difference is that Ken has great chains and Ryu really doesn't. So up close, Ken can always go medium punch to fierce to hadouken and it's typically safe to push someone back. Ryu doesn't have anything of that magnitude up close. Really, Ken just has dozens of weapons over Ryu. Stuff like EX hurricane kick in mid-air that can cross people up that Ryu can't do. Ryu's only advantage is that he can apply solid pressure with EX hadoukens to control the ground, where Ken typically has to either combo his way in to lead to a knockdown, or he just doesn't do it at all and pokes them into making a mistake for an easy SA3.

Me:
That's an interesting contrast. But it's gone in IV?

Him: Actually, I think they retain most of those differences in IV, only with different properties. But without parries, Ryu winds up being the better choice. Because now, unlike Third Strike, knocking down is a huge deal. Now Ryu has better options after the EX hadouken for easy damage and knockdown, more consistent shoryuken (thanks to jumping being risky again) and of course, the ease of comboing his ultra. His ultra is also extremely safe, so that helps. The way it's shaping up though, US plays Ken, Japan plays Ryu. But everyone plays Sagat. How appropriate.

I can totally respect that kind of hardcore devotion to the minutiae of one single fighting series, even if I can never fully grasp it. But it does make me really want to put some serious time into learning Street Fighter IV a little better.

And no post about Daigo Umehara is complete without this gem of a video, which is second for second the most exciting competitive gaming video I've ever seen. Dude comes back from basically zero health to perfectly parry every single hit of his opponent's super art and then bust into his own combo to own the match. The crowd's response tells you all you need to know about how impressive that feat was.

  


I'd pay to watch stuff like this.
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To my untrained eye, the first video is just guys hitting each other. I can never see myself putting in the time to even be moderately good at a beat-em-up. In a way it's a bit sad that I can't be bothered to put in the time to actually get good at something, but the fact of the matter is that I just don't find them interesting enough to be worth it. I'm sure they're more interesting at a higher level, but you have to have a base-level investment before you put the time in.

The second video, on the other hand, is obviously remarkable.

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thats so awsome

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Yep, awesome.  I love Daigo.  People who've not played some of the previous Street Fighter games may not realize how difficult a tech block can be...nonetheless, that many in a row that quickly.  A typical block and a tech block are two things nearly entirely different.  That particular video of Ken and Chun Li is borderline amazing.  I love the SF games and feel that I have a fair amount of skill at it, but I wouldn't even place myself in the same chapter as these guys. 

What this also grants is some amount of potential and significant recognition of the depth to the SF games.  So much more exists than what often manifests on the surface.  I believe this lends a great amount of kudos to the developers at Capcom and their intensive effort in attempting to broaden and perfect the SF series.   

I can't wait to get IV.

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Matthew said:
"Okay Brad, I'll bite.  What's your first most exciting competitive gaming video you've ever seen?  Do you have a link to it?"
I believe he said second to second, or second by second. meaning every part of the video is the most exciting thing he has seen. Which means this is the first. I think he said that.
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TheFreeMan said:
"Meltbrain said:
"What did he actually have to do to execute the parries of her super?"
He had to press forward at the exact moment that each individual attack connected with him, if I'm not mistaken.

Damn impressive."
Thats how it normally is but if you notice when you do a super the game pauses for a split second. If you press forward any time after this you cannot parry any part of the super. You pretty much need to see the super coming and press forward before they input the command to parry the 1st attack. Once you get the 1st its all up to normal parry timing to go for the rest. But if you miss the first you cant parry the rest. Thats why the video is so crazy, cause its ridiculously hard to parry a super.
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Awesome!

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Edited By destruktive

both can beat me without looking at the screen :|

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Edited By Charleslegrand

@dagas: yeah I had to restart it 3 times to understand what is happening but all you need to know to see how incredible it is is that the guy in white is the health bar at the top left (little to no health left). 

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Ok that last video was INSANE. That is so badass!

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Maaan, I cant WAIT for SF4.

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That dude is hardcore. Nobody f***s with him!

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arghh
wish i never saw that
now i have to learn that

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Edited By John1912

Sooo messed up.  Its hard not to enjoy that last vid with the crowd cheering.  Daigo is the king of come backs.  Seen a number of vids where hes just on the plain losing end and just fucking turns the table out of no where.  Nothing but epic.

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I'm not even pissed off that I'm not that good... not sure I'd want to be that good, no one would want to play with me :P

but that's like the third time I've seen the JustinVs. match and it's still just as awsome

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Edited By comradecrash

That second video was cool!  I want to get SF 4 but I don't know I bad (or good) I will be...haven't played any street fighter since 2...I am excited though!

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Wow, that was awesome.

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Dude this video sends chills down my spine. My face hurts from watching it so much. Domination in Absolutes.

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I still think that Guild Wars is the best eSport to date.  The games and meta-games are absolutely fascinating to me.  Too bad that the game didn't get the attention it deserves.

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I'm literally going insane!! I can't wait for this game!! Feb 17th seems like FOREVER FOR ME!!...I want this game now!!! I never been so immensely psyched for game like this, ever...STREET FIGHTER IV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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one of the main reasons im not buying this game is because it feels overwhelming. 

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Omg that last video was madness, the second he blocked that Super the crown knew it was all over. Wow,

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I actually got chills while watching that second video......lolz

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LOL @ Daigo's face when he beats Joe at SFIV. He's all like "Yeah, that just happened."

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How did he do it?!

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thats ridic :-o

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Okay Brad, I'll bite.  What's your first most exciting competitive gaming video you've ever seen?  Do you have a link to it?

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Classic Daigo.

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Edited By dagas

I'm not even good enough to see what is so good about these guys. It's like watching some strange foreign sport, I can tell who wins by the score, but I have no idea what is going on or how good they are =P I can't even do that sheyrooken or how you spell it, but I can do a fireball and the flying spin kick so that's all I do haha.

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Good parry!! I can do everything else very smooth except parry!

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  I wish I was at EVO '04. The best competitive feat in video gaming history, hands down.

-Evan

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I'm surprised that some people never even seen that second video before. It's one of the greatest gaming scene ever recorded on camera. (some may argue that it is THEE greatest)

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That's like a one in a million thing in sf3. 

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The full video of Daigo's parry fight is fucking jaw-dropping. I too would pay to watch high-level SF matches live.

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Oh man, I am so pumped up right now.

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i could never bring myself to know how to count frames like those guys. i just like to get together with bros and pick characters i like and have a couple beers and enjoy the rounds. we always end up staying up past pur bed times, and having an absolute blast. i am afraid that if i ever took a GAME that seriously, i wouldn't have time to enjoy myself ever. my jaw dropped watching that second video though, and i totally appreciate the skills that those guys have.

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Daigo=GOD!!

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I'd watch fighting game matches on TV if they were like the intro sequence to SF4- but less flashy so you could see more of the fighting- while keeping the same dynamic and flowing animation style accented by effects like the ink to help communicate moves to the viewer.

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That evo vid of diago vs JWong is classic, good read and cant wati for SFIV!!

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I don't play fighting games enough to really appreciate them, but damn that was amazing. Way more impressive than a skilled FPS.

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epic last vid.

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wow i have never played a game of street fighter before... but i am inspired to open my obviously closed mind and give it a try. anything that inspires that much excitement cannot anything less than amazing.

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holy shit! that last vid was epic!

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These kids live for Street Fighter .  Bet there Parents are proud lol ,  Love the franchise but i was never that freakish at it .   Would be a lot of fun to watch a tourny live i have to admit ;)

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Man, I just reserved the game today, and I'm even more psyched now. I can't wait to start playing as much as possible. Maybe I'll downgrade, and get an arcade stick over the CE... Oh man, I hope this game is awesome.

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Daigo is just too damn good. That guy breathes Street Fighter!

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Agreed. I too would pay to see a matches like those.

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Meh. You know those poor fuckers never get any.

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BRAD SHOEMAKER!!!  How do YOU know how good we are at Street Fighter?!  HRRMMM??!?!??  You been spying in our windows at night?

I challenge you and everyone at Giant Bomb.  When Street Fighter IV releases, one week afterwards, we will duel...and we will see.

PM me if you or anyone else accepts this challenge.