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Gamespot, Another Hard Blow

Now I am sure there is going to be a bunch of asswholes filling the comments with, "Gamespot Sucks." I don't need to, and no one else needs to hear that crap, go take it else where.

In case you have not already heard, CBS has laid off numerous people. This includes many great people from Gamespot. This includes: Don Francis, Bethany, and Aaron Thomas, just to name a few of the large names. Each of these people were great in their own rights, and seeing them go, breaks my heart. Especially that of Mr. Don, who I play numerous games with over XBL, and hope he finds another job quickly. Knowing Don, working at Gamespot was his dream job, and he got that dream fufilled when he was able to get such job earlier this year. Now, in less than a year's time, his job is gone, and CBS and CNET, and any other big corporations that treat their workers like shit,  can go fuck themselves, for destroying these people's lively hoods.

Gamespot, I really miss you.

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some people just have to be nasty dont they.....

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TomA said:
"That sucks.Gamestop has already lost so many good people.I don't hate Gamespot,bu i do hate CNET and CBS.Now i will list off all the people i can remember who were fired,or left Gamestop.Most of them will be missed.

Bob Calayco
Greg Kasavin
Greg the other one with a shaved head
Jeff Gerstmann
Rich Gallup
Alex Navaro
Jason Ocampo
Ryan Davis
Brad Shomaker
VInny Carravela
Carrie Gouskos
Tim Surrete
Aaron Thomas
Bethany somebody
Don Francis
and whoever else I am missing."

I don't really see how Jeff, Ryan, Brad, or Vinny can be missed when they are right here. Also, although it sucks that those other guys don't work together anymore, they are not dead and they seem to be pretty happy with their new jobs. I don't think this should be a venue to vent against Gamespot and we should all just move on.
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Aaron Thomas on GB would be so awsome

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sigh ... I actually found Aaron Thomas quite funny.
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I do not miss gamespot. Everything i liked there is now here.

That said, its to bad for the people losing their jobs.

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i can hear it now "WE want arron we want arron we want arron"

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Hamz said:
"Joe said:
"LordAndrew said:
"What's the word on Kevin VanOrd? Is he still with GameSpot? If not, then they've effectively eliminated every reason for me to care anymore."
99% Sure hes still there but I could be wrong, at least he didn't mention it in the OTS chat."
Indeed i think KvO is still going to be at Gamespot for the time being, and hopefully forever because he is a solid guy."
i seriously think that CBS/CNET/Gamespot is to scared to fire him since he is gay (im 99% sure about that) and they are afraid that hes going to say they fired him because he is gay and they would get sued and such.
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BigBoss1911 said:
"Gamespot died sometime in 2007.,even before jeff was fired"
I think it all started with Rich, and to some extent Carrie. Id say more Rich though since he left GS for unemployment while Carrie left GS for another job. But if working at GS is the dream job, why did they leave unless something we don't know was wrong?


Working at GS used to be the dreamjob, but not even I want to work there anymore.
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www1221 said:
"Hamz said:
"Joe said:
"LordAndrew said:
"What's the word on Kevin VanOrd? Is he still with GameSpot? If not, then they've effectively eliminated every reason for me to care anymore."
99% Sure hes still there but I could be wrong, at least he didn't mention it in the OTS chat."
Indeed i think KvO is still going to be at Gamespot for the time being, and hopefully forever because he is a solid guy."
i seriously think that CBS/CNET/Gamespot is to scared to fire him since he is gay (im 99% sure about that) and they are afraid that hes going to say they fired him because he is gay and they would get sued and such."
Wow... no offence but your statement is wrong on so many levels...  and no CBS/CNET would not hesitate to fire anyone homosexual or not... if the firing is justified.. its... justified..
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www1221 said:
"Hamz said:
"Joe said:
"LordAndrew said:
"What's the word on Kevin VanOrd? Is he still with GameSpot? If not, then they've effectively eliminated every reason for me to care anymore."
99% Sure hes still there but I could be wrong, at least he didn't mention it in the OTS chat."
Indeed i think KvO is still going to be at Gamespot for the time being, and hopefully forever because he is a solid guy."
i seriously think that CBS/CNET/Gamespot is to scared to fire him since he is gay (im 99% sure about that) and they are afraid that hes going to say they fired him because he is gay and they would get sued and such."
what?! thats the most ridiculous thing I've heard on here, and theres been some real ass holes lol. what are you talkin about dude?
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Sucks about the lay offs, congratz on the 60+ comments lol.

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Oh no.
Man, that makes me sad.

I don't know the editors at Gamespot personally, but I've been following Gamespot for going on 9 years. As each of the editors move on from the site I can't help but feel sad. I'm very fond of that site, and its staff, both past and present. I actually miss seeing those familiar faces on the site.

I wish all of them well.

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StaticFalconar said:
"BigBoss1911 said:
"Gamespot died sometime in 2007.,even before jeff was fired"
I think it all started with Rich, and to some extent Carrie. Id say more Rich though since he left GS for unemployment while Carrie left GS for another job. But if working at GS is the dream job, why did they leave unless something we don't know was wrong?


Working at GS used to be the dreamjob, but not even I want to work there anymore."

Carrie left to go make video games, her real passion (she worked at game developer Acclaim before GameSpot). While Rich left to go live with his girlfriend (wife?) on the east coast. So Carrie is living her real dreamjob, and Rich is loving his family. That hardly seems like "they left because something was wrong."
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Bob, we miss you!

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Well I don't really know about Don and Bethany, all I know is that I am neither leaping for joy or sad about the loss of Aaron. He had some really horrible reviews, but then some decent ones. Maybe this is good, they will get there act cleaned up and get some better reviews out there when they get some new people if the economy gets better.

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Dam, feel sorry for Bethany and especially Don, i knew him well while i was at GS.

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I really hate the mentality that big corperations like CBS have: "We are going to have 1% less growth this year! That means we only get 1.49 billion profit instead of the 1.50 we thought of at first. Quick! Fire people!"

Seriously, there should be a law in place that keeps companies from canning people as soon as their profit margins are a bit lower than expected. Making a profit is fine, and wanting to grow is fine as well, but god, why can't companies just be satisfied for once with what they got?

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pause422 said:
"Gearhead said:
"Artie-Its has been passing around, and from Don himself. Only Don, and Bethany are confirmed at the moment, and Arron Thomas, Kristen, and many others are rumored."
I can confirm Kristen as well. Anyway this isn't exactly "happy" news at all, regardless of who liked/disliked who there. I hardly understand how some people find it "hilarious" that these people are losing their jobs."
damn really. she has'nt even been there long.
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Artie said:
"StaticFalconar said:
"BigBoss1911 said:
"Gamespot died sometime in 2007.,even before jeff was fired"
I think it all started with Rich, and to some extent Carrie. Id say more Rich though since he left GS for unemployment while Carrie left GS for another job. But if working at GS is the dream job, why did they leave unless something we don't know was wrong?


Working at GS used to be the dreamjob, but not even I want to work there anymore."

Carrie left to go make video games, her real passion (she worked at game developer Acclaim before GameSpot). While Rich left to go live with his girlfriend (wife?) on the east coast. So Carrie is living her real dreamjob, and Rich is loving his family. That hardly seems like "they left because something was wrong.""
Perhaps wrong is the wrong word for it, but it obviously wasn't the dream job for those two since Carrie went for her actual dream job and Rich (about a month before his departure was on vacation in Hawaii with his GF and he tells us he's moving back for family reasons. Yeah I think he proposed at Hawaii and she said yes.)
Either way something wasn't right if not wrong because people don't leave dream jobs unless it wasn't a dream job.

In fact that totally does seem like they left because something wasn't right (aka WRONG), like the perceived dream job at GS is just another other job, but somehow we romanticized it to be the dream job. Most of us can't say since most of us never actually worked at GS. Either way, whether actually working at GS was a dreamjob or not, the perception of it is definitely gone.
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Of course it's romanticized by us twits on these messageboards. Most of us only think "paid to play games, zomg!!!!!!1 sign me up!" when in reality it is pretty hellish. It's easy to love what you do while working a job like that but even freelancing it, from the comfort of my home on a sometimes loose schedule, is still very hectic. It's multitasking in the extreme, doing a crazy amount of stuff at once while trying to do your job. It feels good in the end but it isn't what most people would hope.

That said this really saddens me. Between the losses they've suffered this year, including Matthew Rorie (my idol in the area of game guide writing) and all the previously mentioned ones, this site is really killing itself for me. Which is really annoying as it's been my homepage for well over three years. I like Kevin Van Ord and Shaun McGinnis but the rest of the new blood doesn't really do it for me. I feel bad for those being fired AND those left behind. Losing a job this close to Christmas is a horrendous thing which CBS should be ashamed of itself for (at least wait until the New Year people) and I can't imagine the feeling of seeing the people you're working with, even longtimers, being shed like itchy clothing.

*sigh* It's a shame too. The site has been slowing down in the stuff being posted, the rapid-fire days of old are starting to grind down. Blogs are less frequent too. I wonder how bad it's getting for those left behind... Good luck guys! I hope you don't need it.

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thats just sad

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Right when I thought GameSpot was going to start rebuilding and try to get better from the massive losses they had last year, this happens.

I'm going to miss Aaron the most :(

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Damn, son. I feel sorry for anybody who's still at GameSpot, they've been treated like dog shit since the Gerstmann fiasco. Wouldn't be surprised if the site goes under by next year.

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It really sucks. Most will be greatly missed by many, and for me, I will miss Don and Bethany the most. I hate talking about the economy because it's the new hot topic of the world, but it really stinks that this is happening, not just to CBS, but to many, many companies.

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We're in an economic crisis. Layoffs are happening everywhere. It's scary yes, but business have to survive and sadly that means job security is fucked in the ass right now.

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Damn...I hope they found new jobs ASAP. GS is not at all what it used to be just a few years ago, but at least we all still have this awesome place intact. :)

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ZimpanX said:
"Damn...I hope they found new jobs ASAP. GS is not at all what it used to be just a few years ago, but at least we all still have this awesome place intact. :)"
I have absolutely no idea how GiantBomb is funding itself at all.
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Kazona said:
"I really hate the mentality that big corporations like CBS have: "We are going to have 1% less growth this year! That means we only get 1.49 billion profit instead of the 1.50 we thought of at first. Quick! Fire people!"

Seriously, there should be a law in place that keeps companies from canning people as soon as their profit margins are a bit lower than expected. Making a profit is fine, and wanting to grow is fine as well, but god, why can't companies just be satisfied for once with what they got?"
It's a thought process that has always bugged me as well. I love the way business claims to have a loss, when in reality, it just means that they fell short of a projected income that they came up with for the following year -- even if it is based on historical data. As far as I'm concerned, any income that is made after all the debts/bills have been paid is called a profit.  I see no loss in that.
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get2sammyb said:
"ZimpanX said:
"Damn...I hope they found new jobs ASAP. GS is not at all what it used to be just a few years ago, but at least we all still have this awesome place intact. :)"
I have absolutely no idea how GiantBomb is funding itself at all."
They're powered by the tears of PS3 fanboys such as you.

I keed, I keed :P

They're probably just funded by Luchadeer's  online human organ store.
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Thank God CBS won't fire Dave Letterman.

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TeflonBilly said:
"get2sammyb said:
"ZimpanX said:
"Damn...I hope they found new jobs ASAP. GS is not at all what it used to be just a few years ago, but at least we all still have this awesome place intact. :)"
I have absolutely no idea how GiantBomb is funding itself at all."
They're powered by the tears of PS3 fanboys such as you.

I keed, I keed :P

They're probably just funded by Luchadeer's  online human organ store."
they've just began doing subtle advertisement. Also, I think they get something for writing articles and linking them to other sites that sell stuff. They're also selling merchandise you know. But who knows, maybe they just work for whiskey...or do they? lol
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WooH Jeff!!! This sucks. The economy is really really going the wrong way. Tough times, indeed.

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I don't know who any of those people are. 

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Oh well, at least there's plenty of time for games!

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Thanks for those of you who expressed your kind concern for those of us who are departing.
I also appreciate the regulating Jeff did. Though he and I worked together for a short time, I have respected and followed his contributions for nearly 10 years. I am still a fan like most of you.
Here's to the future!
*toasts*

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This is really sad. This is the kind of news that makes me appreciate Giant Bomb more.

PS: Glad to see you post here Don and Bethany.

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LiquidPrince said:
"I hear Giant Bomb has positions open."
My first thought upon reading this. Those guys will land on their feet eventually...
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Kristin Reilly posted this on her blog:
" I'm not sure how many of you are aware myself along with several other coworkers were laid off today from gamespot.

Yup, today was my last OTS, my last day as a gamespot employee, and apparently the first in what I'm sure will become a long string of sleepless nights (which is great since I have a 10 hour drive infront of me).

While I've only been her for 8 months, they've been 8 amazing months. GameSpot fans, without you there would be no gamespot. I appreciate your support and enthusiasm. GameSpot ex-employes, you guys made it fun to come to work and helped turn work-into-not-work. CBS suits - I've got some choice words for you but I'll behave myself one final time.

It's nearly time for my alarm clock to go off and that means hopping in the car for a stupidly long drive back to Oregon. Forget living in San Francisco without a job. If you guys want to stay in touch you can find me on twitter and myspace. (twitter = Batgirl)

Thank you all for everything.

Peace out"

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She got that right, Oregon is a way more reasonable place to live than here in overpriced San Francisco.  S.F. is like Tokyo west, CA tax + "everything is just more expensive here" B.S. SF hidden cost.  Housing, gas, food, clothing, it's all over priced here in SF simply because the weather is nice and the ocean breeze blows all of our smog inland.

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that just sucks, and I like all of those people as well, oh well, we still got giant B here and at least don and beth are in the community so thats cool.

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Bethany still works there..........:|

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Giant bomb should hire Arron Thomas for sure, we need some sports reviews.

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This sucks. You can say what you want about gamespot (not really cared about that site since the Jeff nonsense), but people losing their jobs always suck. And these were really great personalities at gamespot, and it will be a blow to loose them.

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I wish the best of luck to them and I hope they find something else (cough cough GiantBomb)

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Bethany said:
"Oh well, at least there's plenty of time for games!"
It's always good to look on the bright side of things.
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Thanks for the comments guys.

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a shame to see some of them go.... its a hard time for some of these companys, look at whats going on at Ziff davis wwith EGM maybe being pulled and the rest of there Magazines slowly dieing over the last few years

there are not as many jobs in this area as there once was.

this current meltdown has even hit Giant Bomb.. why do you think they havent done a drink test recently??? 


on the plus side maybe some of who got fired will come up with a awesome Idea for a new site while sitting on there butt playing COD WAW over the next 4-5 months
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Strange days... indeed, what was one, has now become many and the many has become one. Buy and sale and buy again, be strong and believe.

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lucas_kelly said:
"For me, Gamespot died along time ago."
Yeah for me too.
Gearhead said:
"Artie-Its has been passing around, and from Don himself. Only Don, and Bethany are confirmed at the moment, and Arron Thomas, Kristen, and many others are rumored."
What ...? All of these people, really sucks for them.  The only people I now are at gamespot where Aaron and Kristen and that dude Kevin who seems to be doing every fucking review on that site. Who are going to hire now ?