So Tales of Graces is coming exclusively for the Wii this year and for the first time in ages, I'm actually considering buying the Wii so I can play this game. Before this, I've had little to no desires to purchase a Wii other than for purely malevolent purposes. But I absolutely loved Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Vesperia and from the looks of Graces, I will most likely love this game as well. And since most games these days are timed exclusives, it's likely that Graces will come to the 360 and PS3 one of these days (but also most likely quite a while after the Wii release). Unfortunately I'm not a man of patience so there's a 50-75% chance I will  end up buying a Wii so I can play this game ASAP.

And then after finishing the game I'll basically be left with a $250 paper weight. I love you Nintendo.

nintendo: now you're playing with paperweights.

System exclusives: One of the worst ideas ever conceived.

Welcome to the club, my paperweight was bought for Super Smash, now it just sits there... glowing blue all night. (stupid updates, I dont care, leave me alone!)

Lol am i the only one who likes my wii?

That pretty much sucks, but is Tales of Graces really the only exclusive wii game that would ever interest you?  You could enjoy great games such as Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3 while your at it.

....^ ^

Or Muramasa and a load of JRPGs that will never come to 360 and PS3.

I bought the Wii for Zelda, I've bought it over 2 years, yet I only got 4 games, Wii Sports, Links Crossbow Training, Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and like I said, Zelda.

Though I'm considering getting Wii Sports Resort, my birthday is coming up and the Wii is pretty popular with a group of people I guess, thing is, I still only got 1 controller, and resort requires the Motion Plus, so to get 2 full controllers now would cost me quite a lot...

" That pretty much sucks, but is Tales of Graces really the only exclusive wii game that would ever interest you?  You could enjoy great games such as Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3 while your at it. "

Dusted off my Wii last night, last time I had turned it on was August last year for the 1 week I played Smash Bros Brawl... Downloaded that Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life As a Darklord and it was pretty fun for £7.

Theres a few good reasons to own a Wii coming soon, Tales of Graces, Arc Rise Fantasia, Muramasa Demon Blade, No More Heroes 2 and something else i'm forgetting.

" Lol am i the only one who likes my wii? "

" And since most games these days are timed exclusives, it's likely that Graces will come to the 360 and PS3 one of these days "

Timed exclusives don't apply to the Wii.  Because the Wii is so underpowered, it isn't going to be ported to the PS3 and Xbox360. "

To the end consumer, sure. "

T@Benjaminvdv said:

" I bought the Wii for Zelda, I've bought it over 2 years, yet I only got 4 games, Wii Sports, Links Crossbow Training, Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and like I said, Zelda.Though I'm considering getting Wii Sports Resort, my birthday is coming up and the Wii is pretty popular with a group of people I guess, thing is, I still only got 1 controller, and resort requires the Motion Plus, so to get 2 full controllers now would cost me quite a lot... "

" T@Benjaminvdv said:

" I bought the Wii for Zelda, I've bought it over 2 years, yet I only got 4 games, Wii Sports, Links Crossbow Training, Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and like I said, Zelda.Though I'm considering getting Wii Sports Resort, my birthday is coming up and the Wii is pretty popular with a group of people I guess, thing is, I still only got 1 controller, and resort requires the Motion Plus, so to get 2 full controllers now would cost me quite a lot... "

You might want to pick up the metroid pack coming out this year.  that looks cool, but I'm also in the same boat.  I bought it for zelda and now all I have left is Guitar Hero III "

i know

I don't think you should make the purchase if it's just for one game. That's kind of stupid, don't you think?

" @Godwind said:

Timed exclusives don't apply to the Wii.  Because the Wii is so underpowered, it isn't going to be ported to the PS3 and Xbox360. "

Well Tales of Vesperia for 360 wasn't exactly very demanding graphically speaking. And the trailers for Graces look about the same, just lower resolution. So it's very feasible to port over a version of it to the 360 or PS3.

" I don't think you should make the purchase if it's just for one game. That's kind of stupid, don't you think? "

I would advise against buying a wii. The fun times are over.

" I would advise against buying a wii. The fun times are over. "

" @Godwind: Its just not worth it for one game. "

The issue isn't feasibility.  Most Wii games don't get ported to other consoles.
Wii Metacritic list
Xbox360 Metacritic List
PS3 Metacritic ListThat isn't to say that the PS3 or Xbox360 have titles unique to their respective platforms, but nearly none of them have the same Wii games that are out.  There are few exceptions such as Guitar Hero and Call of Duty. "

I only use my Wii to play Mega Man 2, 3, and 9.

It'll be a terribly dumbed down and ultimately just not a good game compared to the others.

Guys:

Mario Galaxy 2

and Mario Galaxy 1 also

Super Mario Galaxy is probably the single best game I have played this console generation. Even if the sequel sees a large drop in quality, it will STILL be a great game. Anyone with a Wii owes it to themselves to play Galaxy.

" @Godwind said:

The issue isn't feasibility.  Most Wii games don't get ported to other consoles.
Wii Metacritic list
Xbox360 Metacritic List
PS3 Metacritic ListThat isn't to say that the PS3 or Xbox360 have titles unique to their respective platforms, but nearly none of them have the same Wii games that are out.  There are few exceptions such as Guitar Hero and Call of Duty. "

True but Tales of Graces is supposed to be Namco/Bandai's next flagship Tales game, so it would be strange for them not to release some version of it on the 360 and/or PS3. If this was a game that was specifically taylored to the Wii and it's control scheme then I could see it not coming to the other consoles. But that's not really the case here. "

  It has to do with the quality that would be demanded on the other consoles. "

It's just not worth it, dude. I've also noticed that the quality of exclusives on the Wii has gone way downhill. Look at Nintendo's big franchises. All of their Wii games are worse than their Gamecube games. I certainly wouldn't advise buying any console for just 1 game. Sure, there are other games on the Wii, but there's only one game on the console that I can fully recommend, and that would be Metroid Prime 3. If you need the Tales game that desperately... at least wait for a price drop. Oh, also... Wii games don't drop in price so quickly, unlike other console's' games. The Wii is a pretty popular console. Maybe you can find a friend or relative that has it and play the Tales game with them and solve this problem for much cheaper.

No one game is EVER worth buying a system for. It's like you said in your opening. When you are done with that game there is nothing left but a very expensive paper weight.

" @Godwind said:

  It has to do with the quality that would be demanded on the other consoles. "

And that's kinda my point. The majority of games on the Wii don't have high production values. And the ones that do are either first-party Nintendo games (which will never come to other consoles) or high-profile third party games that are designed specifically for the Wii. Since this is not a budge Tales game but a flagship title, it would go to logic that this game would be at a similar quality level to previous flagship titles such as Abyss or Vesperia. But I suppose we'll have to wait and see when it comes out. But in reality whether or not a publisher releases a game on other platforms, regardless of whether the original IP is for the Wii or not, depends on profitability. If the publisher believes that the game will be profitable on other consoles, it will release the game on other consoles. "

System exclusives that are from 3rd parties do not make sense to me.  Except for those that are because a system cant handle it.  Though there are those that are in between when a 3rd party develops the game but the 1st party publishes it, like with Gears and the first Mass Effect.

i hate exclusives too. Got a 360 for Dead Rising and Perfect Dark, then got a Wii for Super Mario Galaxy and Wii Sports, and now I desperately want a PS3 for Metal Gear Solid 4. Make it for 360! I don't care how many discs it takes!

" @spazmaster666 said: And I will be right.  Also, your view isn't shared with everyone else in the industry.  There isn't much reason to port it when it is likely more profitable on the Wii.

Wii: Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Sold .38 million copies
It received a metacritic rating of 69

Xbox360: Tales of Vesperia
Sold .35 million copies
It received a metacritic rating of 80

It isn't obviously more profitable to have it on the Xbox360.  It probably cost a lot more to develop for that system over the Wii.  Especially with the Wii version being much weaker in comparison.  Also, the games in the Tales franchise tend to be platform exclusive.

Check out the lists
List 1
List 2Rarely are Tales titles ported and rarely are Wii titles ported. "

" System exclusives that are from 3rd parties do not make sense to me. "

" @Hamst3r said:

" System exclusives: One of the worst ideas ever conceived. "

They make a huge percentage of systems sell "

" @Godwind said:

" @spazmaster666 said: And I will be right.  Also, your view isn't shared with everyone else in the industry.  There isn't much reason to port it when it is likely more profitable on the Wii.

Wii: Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Sold .38 million copies
It received a metacritic rating of 69

Xbox360: Tales of Vesperia
Sold .35 million copies
It received a metacritic rating of 80

It isn't obviously more profitable to have it on the Xbox360.  It probably cost a lot more to develop for that system over the Wii.  Especially with the Wii version being much weaker in comparison.  Also, the games in the Tales franchise tend to be platform exclusive.

Check out the lists
List 1
List 2Rarely are Tales titles ported and rarely are Wii titles ported. "

The only reason why Namco wouldn't port the game is if they felt that they wouldn't be able to make a significant profit from a 360 or PS3 version compared to the Wii version (this seems unlikely especially considering that most of the development costs would have already been spent in making the Wii version; this is also assuming that the Wii version even sells well. If it doesn't then that would be all the more reason for Namco to port the game to other systems). So unless porting the game to the 360 or PS3 is such a hassle that it's not worth the time or effort, then I don't see why Namco wouldn't want to release it for other consoles. Also I find it difficult to believe that it would cost Namco more to port the engine and assets over to the 360 or PS3 compared to developing a brand new Tales game for the Wii. "

" @spazmaster666 said:

Traditionally most gamers are not interested in an enhanced port of a video game.  There just happens to be no interest for it.  Okami is one of those rare exceptions where the port to the Wii from the PS2 outsells a port. "

Never buy a system for one game. Ever.

" Never buy a system for one game. Ever. "

" @Godwind said:

" @spazmaster666 said:

Traditionally most gamers are not interested in an enhanced port of a video game.  There just happens to be no interest for it.  Okami is one of those rare exceptions where the port to the Wii from the PS2 outsells a port. "

If so, why is Namco releasing Vesperia for PS3? Also even if, say, Vesperia PS3 version only manages to sell half as much as the 360 version, that's still better than not selling any units at all.

@AgentJ:

I didn't own a PS2 until relatively late in its lifespan (I was previously primarily a PC gamer) so I never got around to playing some of the older PS2 games. Plus I finished Vesperia (I had no prior experience with Tales games before Vesperia) before playing Abyss (I mainly got interested in Vesperia because of the Tales of the Abyss anime). I may give Symphonia a try but I don't really have much desire to play older PS2 games these days.
"

exclusives are great. Devs can make a better product.

focusing on 1 platform is better than spliting a studio's team on multiple versions

get all the good consoles if you feel like your missing out on exclusives

" @spazmaster666 said:

Well its a good thing that Symphonia isnt a PS2 game then : ) Its a gamecube game. It was released on the PS2 in japan only.  "