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    Game » consists of 9 releases. Released Jul 18, 2008

    After nearly a decade in hiatus, Capcom's signature mainline fighting game series resurfaces with its fourth main installment, combining the traditional 2D gameplay with modern fully-3D graphics.

    Cammy, Sagat or Abel?

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    #1  Edited By Skye
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    #2  Edited By FluxWaveZ

    Who to main?  Main Sagat and destroy all.

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    #3  Edited By Skye

    Can't decide who to put time into getting decent with, narrowed it down to these three.

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    #4  Edited By skrutop

    Possibly one of the most random polls ever.  What about them?

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    #5  Edited By donchipotle

    I would say Cammy but that's because she's my main. A good Abel can be fierce, though.

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    #6  Edited By Skye
    @FluxWaveZ said:

    " Who to main?  Main Sagat and destroy all. "

    @skrutop said:

    " Possibly one of the most random polls ever.  What about them? "

    This.

    " Can't decide who to put time into getting decent with, narrowed it down to these three. "

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    #7  Edited By DarkShaper

    Sagat.

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    #8  Edited By JokerClown88

    Sagat takes the least amount of skill to use effectively.  I would say Abel.  Abel is a bitch when played to his best.
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    #9  Edited By yetiantics

    If you desire speed go with Cammy, just don't expect fancy juggle combos other than Hard Trial 5. ... half of it anyway... 
    If you desire power go with Sagat, just say buh-bye to the speed cus hes one of the slowest fighters around. master the half step. 
    Abel i dont know squat about. But i hear he has some of the best mixups and grapples.
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    #10  Edited By Scarabus

    Sagat's bound to get nerfed in Super. 

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    #11  Edited By DRE7777

    Best to main = Sagat 
    Sexiest = Cammy 
    Most Homosexual = Abel

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    #12  Edited By skrutop

    I main Cammy, and was just getting my ass kicked on Xbox Live.  I don't like playing as the other characters because they're too damn slow.

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    #13  Edited By EvilGreenDevil

    Personally I would say stay away from Sagat. So many players use him and Ryu it get's to the point that players pick up on your moves because they're so use to seeing it all the time. I used sagat for a while until i realized everyone online has seen him and knows what to expect. If you're gonna start fresh with someone, make it someone different so you'll stand out once you really learn the moves. I say Abel. 

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    #14  Edited By JJOR64

    Go with Abel.  Most people already know Sagats tricks like EvilGreenDevil said.

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    #15  Edited By beargirl1

    Cammy for me. she's super fast, just how i love it. 

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    #16  Edited By Kumo

    Of those three I'd have to say Abel.
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    #17  Edited By Jayzilla

    GET HYPE!!!!!

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    #18  Edited By napalm

    Sagat. Dude's a fuckin' brick shit-house.

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    #19  Edited By MikkaQ

    Hahaha this reminds me when my friend pronounced Sagat like you'd say Bob Saget. That made me crack the fuck up. I can picture Bob Saget using his Thai Kickboxing skills. It is awesome.

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    #20  Edited By mrjared
    @JokerClown88 said:
    " Sagat takes the least amount of skill to use effectively."
    This is a very common misconception that is actually backwards. Sagat takes a huge amount of skill to be used effectively. There's a massive difference between playing a Sagat that only picked him up for easy wins, and someone who truly understands how the character works. He's a huge, slow moving target and unless a player can effectively overcome these drawbacks, they're easy prey for just about anyone on the cast.  
     
    Sagat's may rule the online world but there are many reasons why Sagat's (other than Mago) rarely place top eight in major tournaments. Not only do most players know how to deal with him, but because its very difficult to play him effectively at higher levels of play. Anyone can spam tiger shots and fish for f.rh into Ultra, but it takes a lot of skill to know when to kara-tiger shot, how to out-zone faster, more suited characters and put his brute force to work. 
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    #21  Edited By Renahzor
    @MrJared said:
    " @JokerClown88 said:
    " Sagat takes the least amount of skill to use effectively."
    This is a very common misconception that is actually backwards. Sagat takes a huge amount of skill to be used effectively. There's a massive difference between playing a Sagat that only picked him up for easy wins, and someone who truly understands how the character works. He's a huge, slow moving target and unless a player can effectively overcome these drawbacks, they're easy prey for just about anyone on the cast.   Sagat's may rule the online world but there are many reasons why Sagat's (other than Mago) rarely place top eight in major tournaments. Not only do most players know how to deal with him, but because its very difficult to play him effectively at higher levels of play. Anyone can spam tiger shots and fish for f.rh into Ultra, but it takes a lot of skill to know when to kara-tiger shot, how to out-zone faster, more suited characters and put his brute force to work.  "
    This^
     
    Abel is probably my choice from that list, and I main cammy!
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    #22  Edited By Skye

    Just played some more against my brother. Got pwned by his Bison but I like Abel more now and am leaning towards him out of the three. I know I shouldn't but i'm starting to like Ken as well now.

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    #23  Edited By StaticFalconar

    If you just want to beat down people all day online pick sagat. Yes Jared has a point, but that only applies to tournament players who probably know the sagat match up as a prerequisite for being competitive in a tournament. However there are still people online even now that punish with a sweep and go DP happy still online. He probably will get nerfed so even if i were to main him, I would hold off until Super.  
     
     
    So, either Cammy or Abel.  
     
    that all depends on do you like to simply rush people down (Cammy) or have a moderate amount of rushing down, but more mind games with a command grab to boot? 

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    #24  Edited By EvilGreenDevil
    @Skye said:
    " Just played some more against my brother. Got pwned by his Bison but I like Abel more now and am leaning towards him out of the three. I know I shouldn't but i'm starting to like Ken as well now. "
    boo ken
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    #25  Edited By Skye
    @StaticFalconar said:
    "So, either Cammy or Abel.   that all depends on do you like to simply rush people down (Cammy) or have a moderate amount of rushing down, but more mind games with a command grab to boot?  "
    When you put it like that, Cammy, but that's because I don't know the advantages of a command grab.
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    #26  Edited By MikeFightNight

    I main Cammy, which is fun beating on a sea of Ryu's and Ken's online.

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    #27  Edited By AniMoney

    Join the balrog army, kid. 
     
    No I'm just kidding. We don't have many Sagat mains on these forums so that would be interesting, but everyone online uses him so expect a lot of boring mirror matches and stuff. I'd go with Abel, because he is a lot of fun to play and still a solid character. I have a lot of fun fighting against Abels as well.

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    #28  Edited By Scooper

     Go for Abel. I wish I could play Abel. A good Abel with interesting and unique mixup can dominate.

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    #29  Edited By Stang

    Ken.

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    #30  Edited By Thrawn1
    @MrJared said:
    " @JokerClown88 said:
    " Sagat takes the least amount of skill to use effectively."
    This is a very common misconception that is actually backwards. Sagat takes a huge amount of skill to be used effectively. There's a massive difference between playing a Sagat that only picked him up for easy wins, and someone who truly understands how the character works. He's a huge, slow moving target and unless a player can effectively overcome these drawbacks, they're easy prey for just about anyone on the cast.   Sagat's may rule the online world but there are many reasons why Sagat's (other than Mago) rarely place top eight in major tournaments. Not only do most players know how to deal with him, but because its very difficult to play him effectively at higher levels of play. Anyone can spam tiger shots and fish for f.rh into Ultra, but it takes a lot of skill to know when to kara-tiger shot, how to out-zone faster, more suited characters and put his brute force to work.  "
    what I was gonna say
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    #31  Edited By copycatzen
    @Stang said:
    "Ken. "

    typical LOL
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    #32  Edited By lordofultima
    @MrJared said:
    " @JokerClown88 said:
    " Sagat takes the least amount of skill to use effectively."
    This is a very common misconception that is actually backwards. Sagat takes a huge amount of skill to be used effectively. There's a massive difference between playing a Sagat that only picked him up for easy wins, and someone who truly understands how the character works. He's a huge, slow moving target and unless a player can effectively overcome these drawbacks, they're easy prey for just about anyone on the cast.   Sagat's may rule the online world but there are many reasons why Sagat's (other than Mago) rarely place top eight in major tournaments. Not only do most players know how to deal with him, but because its very difficult to play him effectively at higher levels of play. Anyone can spam tiger shots and fish for f.rh into Ultra, but it takes a lot of skill to know when to kara-tiger shot, how to out-zone faster, more suited characters and put his brute force to work.  "
    I've said this 1000 times, but now that Jared has said it people can all agree.
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    #33  Edited By Jeffsekai
    @lordofultima: Dude stop jumping on the Jared bandwagon GOD ;)
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    #34  Edited By PureRok

    I say Cammy if you're into the speed. I use Cammy, mainly because I enjoy her move-set (they're nice and quick). Since it's difficult for me to do combos, she plays to my strengths, being more of a hit-and-run character (but she does have some interesting loop combos, but I can't do them). A lot of people also seem to have problems against her. Turtles are her bane.
     
    Personally, I'll be switching to Guy when SSFIV hits, but that's because I like his move-set, style, and over-all character more. I rocked with him in Alpha.

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    #35  Edited By brydello

    I main Sagat.
    Go with Cammy though, she's a lot of fun.

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    #36  Edited By Driadon

    Abel. Once you get used to him his mix-ups can fuck over just about anyone.

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    #37  Edited By Vade

    Cammy is really technical if you're not just flowcharting away. She doesn't have any strengths that makes her better than the other characters and your opponents can just down-back a lot of her stuff. Dive kick timing, tricks, block strings etc. are difficult to time in a laggy environment. Better to stay away from Cammy, if you're playing online.

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    #38  Edited By turbomonkey138
    @Stang said:
    " Ken. "
    Stop trying to turn the whole of GB into Kens lol
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    #39  Edited By Skye

    Trying out Abel again now, I like him, but can't do HP into CoD, very frustrating.

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    #40  Edited By baelrrogg

    I would have to say Sagat. As mentioned before by more experienced users, he has limited mobility (in terms of movement speed) and is a pretty big target to hit but this comes with the ability to make your opponent easily pay for mistakes.
     
    The thing I find with Sagat is that his execution is friendlier than the other 2. Learning high level combos and tactics with Sagat are relatively easy to pull off in terms of input and timing.  
     
    I find that my challenges in maining Sagat aren't usually about landing a FADC combo for example, but getting the opponent to make a mistake that I can punish with said combo.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that the early stages of learning Sagat can go pretty smoothly but once you run into people that know the matchup, it can be a nightmare to try and lock them down.
     
    But this in turn forces you to learn the matchups, headgames and all other avenues to be successful with him. (which is a good thing IMO).
     
    This what it has been like for me maining Sagat in SF4 and being new to SF competitively. Hope this helps you decision process.

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    #41  Edited By rjayb89

    I'd rather do Cammy than those two guys.  Maybe Abel.

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    #42  Edited By fRAWRst

    Def Abel, his command throw adds a valuable mixup, his ultra is amazing is all aspects, his CoD is apparently safer on block in SSF4, and his new ultra has hyper armor. Bow to your french master.

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    #43  Edited By King9999

    If you're looking for a challenge, try maining Cammy.

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    #44  Edited By Stang
    @King9999 said:
    " If you're looking for a challenge, try maining Gen. "
    Fixed!
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    #45  Edited By yetiantics

    I'd go with Ken. Ken is uber awesome.
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    #46  Edited By Belonpopo

    I lost so many times fighting Sagat in Ryu arcade I perfer Cammy.

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    #47  Edited By frankxiv

    i picked cammy because i play cammy and cammy is cool.

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    #48  Edited By Pessh

    Thanks for replying but I went with Balrog, no need to post in this thread anymore.

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    #49  Edited By AniMoney
    @Pessh said:
    " Thanks for replying but I went with Balrog, no need to post in this thread anymore. "
    Welcome to the Rog army. 
     
    Are you on xbox?
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    #50  Edited By Pessh
    @AniMoney: Nope, PS3. 
     
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