Tom McShea's review is sure garnering a lot of hate.

#2 Edited by Ben_H (3358 posts) -

What game is this for? Also, yeah, people need to chill out. It's just a review, he isn't insulting your mom and kicking your dog. This happens far too often when highly anticipated games come out.

#3 Posted by EarlessShrimp (1639 posts) -

@ben_h said:

What game is this for? Also, yeah, people need to chill out. It's just a review, he isn't insulting your mom and kicking your dog.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's The Last of Us review?

#4 Edited by Fredchuckdave (5477 posts) -

McShea should be hated on for when Ryan showed up and destroyed them in that weird Gamespot video podcast crap; who gives a shit about his review.

#5 Posted by LordAndrew (14426 posts) -

I don't know what game you're talking about, and yet I'm not surprised.

#6 Edited by selfconfessedcynic (2562 posts) -

*shrug* the man has very specific tastes. I disagree with half of what he says, and this just happens to likely be another one of those cases (of course, I haven't played the game yet so who knows?)

I'm happy to take the shitloads of 10/10s for their value rather than the one or two <9 scores currently on Metacritic.

@ben_h said:

What game is this for? Also, yeah, people need to chill out. It's just a review, he isn't insulting your mom and kicking your dog.

The Last of Us

#7 Posted by xyzygy (9988 posts) -

It's a shame. His criticisms seem pretty well grounded.

#9 Edited by Demoskinos (14829 posts) -
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#10 Edited by johncallahan (566 posts) -

I'm going to assume you're talking about Last of Us, but in the future, you may be wise to name the game you're referring to, especially if you're not posting it in the actual games forums.

#11 Posted by FreakAche (2953 posts) -

Video game reviews are serious business.

#12 Posted by djou (875 posts) -

I assume you mean his Last of Us review (link)

I wouldn't say he's experience undue backlash, I think everyone who comes out against this game will get an earful from the internet. Check the Polygon 7.5 review. People want to like this game so badly I think its going to get waaay over-praised. I rarely pre-order games I've had a year old pre-order. In my mind it critic proof, I will play it no matter what. At this point it doesn't matter what anyone says, I'll make up my mind when I get my copy next week.

#13 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4208 posts) -
#14 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Where are the rest of the posts in this thread? It says 11 on the forum page, but I only see the first two.

#15 Posted by Milkman (16789 posts) -

Do we need a thread about this? The internet will be the internet. Who cares?

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#17 Posted by alternate (2704 posts) -

Less than Phil Koller over at Polygon

Yeah, it is dumb though. Everyone else gave this game, I have not played yet, a perfect score and you said it was merely "great". How dare you. Wait until it comes out and those same kiddies will have hyped up this "perfect" game so much that they can be little else but disappointed.

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#19 Edited by Gnubberen (770 posts) -

@ben_h: Pretty sure he means The Last of Us. Looking at the comments make me glad I don't really come to gamespot anymore. Say what you will about the Giant Bomb community, but god damn it, if we aren't a hell of a lot better than the gamespot community. I think we can all pad ourselves on the shoulder.

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#21 Edited by iAmJohn (6120 posts) -

@ben_h: I'm guessing this should have been attached to The Last of Us board. (EDIT: In my defense, the boards were being glitchy on my iPad and you were the only reply I saw in this thread when I ended up being the eighty-ninth person to inform you of this.)

I'm sure you're right and this is the Internet being the Internet and overreacting as per usual, but no lie, I take serious issue with you saying Tom McShea is "talented" and "does good work." How anyone could say that after that MoH: Warfighter bullshit is beyond me.

#22 Edited by ArbitraryWater (11735 posts) -

You have to remember that the Gamespot audience is, to an extent, the lowest-common denominator of younger teens who have just discovered internet comments. While I don't necessarily think Tom McShea is either a good writer or a reviewer I agree with, he is most certainly entitled to his (occasionally bizarre) opinions and almost no one in that comments section has played the game yet.

On the plus side, this will result in a really good episode of Feedbackula.

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#23 Posted by BeachThunder (11932 posts) -

8.0 is less than 8.8, they have reason to be furious...

#24 Posted by leftie68 (215 posts) -

Isn't this the guy that got all the hate for giving Skyward Sword a 7.5? I think he couldn't figure out how some of the motion controls worked. Man, this guy knows controversy.

#25 Edited by churrific (479 posts) -

You have to remember that the Gamespot audience is, to an extent, the lowest-common denominator of younger teens who have just discovered internet comments. While I don't necessarily think Tom McShea is either a good writer or a reviewer I agree with, he is most certainly entitled to his opinions and almost no one in that comments section has played the game yet.

On the plus side, this will result in a really good episode of Feedbackula.

Lol Feedbackula. I can't wait.

#26 Posted by ShaggE (6453 posts) -

No surprise there. Our own Jefferson "Big J Gerst" Gerstmann is still despised by a small group of people that haven't gotten over his 8.8 Twilight Princess review.

#27 Edited by Turtlebird95 (2388 posts) -

Fanboys will be fanboys. Polygon gave it like a seven, wonder how much hate they are getting.

Just checked and... A LOT.

#28 Edited by Ben_H (3358 posts) -

@ben_h:

The Last of Us. Sorry, forgot to mention that part, haha.

Yeah that is what I figured.

But none the less, people need to stop taking reviews personally. A dude like the game slightly less than everyone else. Big deal.

#29 Edited by Jayzilla (2561 posts) -

@leftie68 said:

Isn't this the guy that got all the hate for giving Skyward Sword a 7.5? I think he couldn't figure out how some of the motion controls worked. Man, this guy knows controversy.

Didn't Tricky hand Skyward Sword a 3 star review? I seem to remember a lot of duders on here reacting like a bunch of children over that. I like McShea a lot. He may say stupid stuff but he is HONEST, and I value honesty over towing corporate lines.

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#30 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (383 posts) -

@iamjohn:

I'll agree with the MoH: Warfighter incident. He handled that pretty poorly. I will stand by his writing, however. I may not agree with everything he says, but I still think he has interesting articles.

#31 Posted by fuzzypumpkin (383 posts) -

@shagge:

I've heard this before. Was it hate for being too low? I thought most people didn't hold that game in very high regard.

#32 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@jayzilla said:

@leftie68 said:

Isn't this the guy that got all the hate for giving Skyward Sword a 7.5? I think he couldn't figure out how some of the motion controls worked. Man, this guy knows controversy.

Didn't Tricky hand Skyward Sword a 3 star review?

You mean Patrick?

#33 Edited by EuanDewar (4922 posts) -

I really dont like his face

like ive never read anything he's written or that but i just really dont like his face

not really on topic but its fuckin bugging me

#34 Posted by LordAndrew (14426 posts) -
@shagge said:

No surprise there. Our own Jefferson "Big J Gerst" Gerstmann is still despised by a small group of people that haven't gotten over his 8.8 Twilight Princess review.

That was a disgrace and he should be fired.

#35 Posted by Jimbo (9809 posts) -

It's the A Clockwork Orange of game reviews.

#36 Edited by zenmastah (912 posts) -

I have a hard time accepting that Jeff even reviewed a Zelda game tbh.

#37 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

Hope you sent him a nice comment in the comments section of his review as well.
But I agree, all this hate for no reason is just stupid.

#38 Edited by SomeJerk (3250 posts) -

For you, me and other intelligent beings worthy of their place on the planet, 3/5, 5/10, 50/100 are equal scores detonating a perfect average rating, and 8/10 is a really good perfectly respectable score.

#39 Posted by gbrading (2033 posts) -

Because it's GameSpot. As usual, people love to blow things out of proportion. As has already been mentioned, remember 8.8...

#40 Edited by SlashDance (1815 posts) -

War never changes.

#41 Edited by GorillaMoPena (2130 posts) -

BREAKING SHOCKING NEWS: The internet over reacts to basically anything including review scores.

#42 Posted by oldenglishC (957 posts) -

I guess I kind of understand the "I love this game, gotta support the team" mentality of some people, but he could of given this game a 1 out of 10 and nobody has any business arguing it. SINCE IT DOESN'T COME OUT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.

#43 Posted by BaconGames (3415 posts) -

Reviews are weird in that they operate with an underlying assumption that they declare a concrete, unchangeable-in-the-minds-of-the-audience, impression of a game to an assumed audience that isn't smart enough to read past the score, look at multiple reviews, and be critical at any point. How can I tell? How a game gets represented to others as it implicates your impression (however justified), is at the core of being angry at something like a review. Otherwise it would matter little to you that someone else across the internet decided to give a game a slightly less score.

Conversely there also exists a large contingent of people that understand some of the above but themselves are still not actually critical and don't understand how to interpret reviews either and so take up the equal but opposite position in being a hater. There is an interesting social meta-game going on where people participate in assuming the other and their identities through their own position and so argue accordingly. Match actual, agitated, poorly written, words from people in those comments sections to react to, and lo, you have a shit storm. At least this is the basics of what I've been piecing together in my head full of social science theory for the past year or so. Just a though.

#44 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11735 posts) -

I have a hard time accepting that Jeff even reviewed a Zelda game tbh.

Jeff used to like Zelda games. I know it's crazy to think about, but it's true.

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#45 Posted by Yadilie (380 posts) -

People screaming like children over a worthless review for an overhyped game by an overrated studio that they haven't played yet? People still do this? People are still surprised by this? How many times does this have to happen before people just shrug at the reactions of people.

#46 Edited by joshwent (2207 posts) -

From Patrick's review, it seemed like because of some problems he had with the late game fights it would have been a 9 out of 10, if he were using that scale. When there's only five to choose from though, the game bumped up to 5 out of 5.

People all too easily mistake a full score (10/10 or whatever) to mean, "This game is utterly, objectively flawless!". When in actuality, it really just means that it effectively accomplished its goals. Those goals, however, may not appeal to everyone.

Also, review hate directed at an individual is pretty sad. Especially for a game that NO ONE HAS ACTUALLY PLAYED YET!

#47 Posted by Animasta (14691 posts) -

8.8

#48 Posted by EarlessShrimp (1639 posts) -
#49 Edited by Snail (8605 posts) -

Tom McShea wrote a review no one except him can relate to, and is garnering an immense amount of hatred throughout the internet for it?

GET OUT.

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