I agree, looks like complete, boring, utter, shit. Just like 99% of every other JRPG.

JRPG looks like a JRPG? *Shocked*

Looks the same as last time I saw it. Perhaps no one told you it was an RPG?

I don't get why such corporate JRPGs suck and smaller lower-tech ones like The World Ends With You and the Shin Megami Tensei series are totally awesome.

"I agree, looks like complete, boring, utter, shit. Just like 99% of every other JRPG."

"I don't get why such corporate JRPGs suck and smaller lower-tech ones like The World Ends With You and the Shin Megami Tensei series are totally awesome.

Oh, I know: money.

I had hope for this game, but now my expectations are a mediocre game at best.

"

Corporate?  BWAHAHAHA!!!  This is Level 5, suckas!!!  These are the same doods that brought us the amazing with Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Dragon Quest VIII, and Rogue Galaxy!!!  These guys do no wrong!

I'm confused.  You go in between seriousness and sarcasm so fluidly.

"Red said:

"I don't get why such corporate JRPGs suck and smaller lower-tech ones like The World Ends With You and the Shin Megami Tensei series are totally awesome.

Oh, I know: money.

I had hope for this game, but now my expectations are a mediocre game at best.

"

Not really. 
There's plenty of good jrpgs on the 360 now.  And persona sucks, it really does, don't get me started on dating (woops, did I say that?) simulators.

Well, by corporate I mean higher-budget. The game just reminds me of FF12 now but without the soul (yes, the tiny soul FF12 had). Total identity crisis.

"pause422 said:

"I agree, looks like complete, boring, utter, shit. Just like 99% of every other JRPG."

Because all JRPGs are crappy MMOs, amirite?

By the way, Persona 4 says hi."

Most city areas in any game aren't the technical achievement of the game to begin with. 

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"Red said:

"I don't get why such corporate JRPGs suck and smaller lower-tech ones like The World Ends With You and the Shin Megami Tensei series are totally awesome.

Oh, I know: money.

I had hope for this game, but now my expectations are a mediocre game at best.

"

Not really. 
There's plenty of good jrpgs on the 360 now.  And persona sucks, it really does, don't get me started on dating (woops, did I say that?) simulators.

Nah, I'm in it for the totally awesome fast-paced combat and the likeable characters with a story that's awesome."

well if it's a JRPG than of course it looks like crap.  (I hate JRPG's)

aside from the terrible battle music it looks pretty good.

"Silverevilchao said:

"pause422 said:

"I agree, looks like complete, boring, utter, shit. Just like 99% of every other JRPG."

Because all JRPGs are crappy MMOs, amirite?

By the way, Persona 4 says hi."

Obviously you're a moron. No one said anything about an mmo at all. Also, I like Persona 4, notice I said 99% of every other JRPG, not 100%. Don't talk at me when you have no idea what you're talking about."

"Silverevilchao said:

"pause422 said:

"I agree, looks like complete, boring, utter, shit. Just like 99% of every other JRPG."

Because all JRPGs are crappy MMOs, amirite?

By the way, Persona 4 says hi."

Obviously you're a moron. No one said anything about an mmo at all. Also, I like Persona 4, notice I said 99% of every other JRPG, not 100%. Don't talk at me when you have no idea what you're talking about."

First of all, you're really missing out if you label Persona as simply a "dating sim." I pity you, really.

"Silverevilchao said:

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"Red said:

"I don't get why such corporate JRPGs suck and smaller lower-tech ones like The World Ends With You and the Shin Megami Tensei series are totally awesome.

Oh, I know: money.

I had hope for this game, but now my expectations are a mediocre game at best.

"

Not really. 
There's plenty of good jrpgs on the 360 now.  And persona sucks, it really does, don't get me started on dating (woops, did I say that?) simulators.

Nah, I'm in it for the totally awesome fast-paced combat and the likeable characters with a story that's awesome."

@silver Yeah me too.

Anyway leave this guy alone he is obviously a fanboy. He just started posting saying that this game sucks (its basically a run of the mill jrpg that does some interesting things), but then says the 360 has great JRPGs (when no one had mentioned it). Not saying that it doesn't but I wonder how can you dislike, White Knight and Persona 4 and at the same time liek blue dragon, eternal sonata, and star ocean. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME THING (except persona 4, which is better than all those). He is just hating on this thing due to the system its on. So please ignore him.

Anyhow I'm excited for the game and wish to see how well it looks and how the online plays, its been a huge success in Japan so that tells me it must be doing something  good."

Who officially deemed it as looking like crap?

I think we should all stop judging a game that has not come out in America. Yeah, yeah, yeah it came out in Japan, but honestly, who knows what they could change? And until you've played it which I don't think anyone on this page has, your opinion is void. All of these comments aren't even from a demo, you guys are all talking about a game you have never played. Maybe the city will be lifeless? Who cares. It's level 5 and most likely something else much more entertaining will make up for that. And I'm fairly sure this is not an MMO, but it has MMO elements. BIG difference.

I don't think it looks like crap. If you said that the enviroment looks lika a ghost town, then I'd agree with you. But in its emptyness it looks good.

And japanese reviews have already appeared, if I'm not mistaken the game has already been launched in japan, and they've been saying good things about it. I wouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.
It's just weid though,  this is a level 5 game. Even in their games weaker games they put out a good presentation, this looks like a little rushed and unfinished.

And by the way, why do people feel the need to just come in and bash at jrpgs? If you don't like the genre, just move along please...

"chililili said:

"Silverevilchao said:

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"Red said:

"I don't get why such corporate JRPGs suck and smaller lower-tech ones like The World Ends With You and the Shin Megami Tensei series are totally awesome.

Oh, I know: money.

I had hope for this game, but now my expectations are a mediocre game at best.

"

Not really. 
There's plenty of good jrpgs on the 360 now.  And persona sucks, it really does, don't get me started on dating (woops, did I say that?) simulators.

Nah, I'm in it for the totally awesome fast-paced combat and the likeable characters with a story that's awesome."

@silver Yeah me too.

Anyway leave this guy alone he is obviously a fanboy. He just started posting saying that this game sucks (its basically a run of the mill jrpg that does some interesting things), but then says the 360 has great JRPGs (when no one had mentioned it). Not saying that it doesn't but I wonder how can you dislike, White Knight and Persona 4 and at the same time liek blue dragon, eternal sonata, and star ocean. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME THING (except persona 4, which is better than all those). He is just hating on this thing due to the system its on. So please ignore him.

Anyhow I'm excited for the game and wish to see how well it looks and how the online plays, its been a huge success in Japan so that tells me it must be doing something  good."

No, not really.  The 360 is just getting the good jrpgs.

White Knight looks like garbage, do we even have to go on with that?
As for Persona, it's not as bad as I said, it's just better as an adventure game than a jrpg to be honest.
I actually did like it, I was just being teh meanie!!

The main thing I have against persona 3 and 4 are that they're  ps2 games. Make it a ps3 game already, jees."

^ I guess it could be good in reality.  It's just it looks so unpolished and now that I'm looking at it, could WKC have originally have been a scrapped ps2 mmo converted into a ps3 single player game?
that'd make sense and explain why the towns look like they do-- they would have been filled up and gave themselves life, the battle system would explain itself, and the open world type battlefields are also explained.

It looks good if you're into JRPGs.  It's not about instant gratification obviously... and that's why I play games like Fable instead.

mcrproductions said:

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"chililili said:

The 360 is getting the good RPG's? Has someone replaced the meaning of "good" with mediocre? The Last Remnant, Blue Dragon, and Infinite Undiscovery were "meh" at best. The only one I would consider good is Lost Oddyssey. But that wasn't nearly as good as Persona 3 or 4. Did the thought ever cross your mind that the new Persona games are good because they are on an outdayed system? Without the neccessity of rediculously good graphics the developers could actually develop a good story with a great art style. And the fact that you said Persona is "basically" an adventure game just makes everything else you just said void."

The reason why persona is so highly acclaimed is because it simulates the jrpg experience in what is basically not a jrpg. 

Last Remnant is pretty good.
Infinite Undiscovery is meh

That being said, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, and Tales are all fantastic. 
Why do I consider the 360 good for jrpgs?  well, there's consistently a good one every couple months. 
You really need to stop hiding behind the ps2, because it took a long time for jrpgs to start rolling crazily on that baby.  People did what your doing to the 360 as what they did to the ps2 with the ps1.

This is a view from someone who likes jrpgs perspective, not someone who will just pop in and out for final fantasy.

It looks like doo-doo butter to me. And I'm a moderate fan of jRPGs. I'll stick with my PSP for my androgynous fix.

did jayge just agree with me?
hey jayge, you know I made that post, right?

I don't think its the fact that people are shocked its a JRPG that led to people talking it down. It's the fact that a strange amount of hype seemed to build from so little info. No way its gonna live up to any of it.

"did jayge just agree with me?
hey jayge, you know I made that post, right?
"

"

mcrproductions said:

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"chililili said:

The 360 is getting the good RPG's? Has someone replaced the meaning of "good" with mediocre? The Last Remnant, Blue Dragon, and Infinite Undiscovery were "meh" at best. The only one I would consider good is Lost Oddyssey. But that wasn't nearly as good as Persona 3 or 4. Did the thought ever cross your mind that the new Persona games are good because they are on an outdayed system? Without the neccessity of rediculously good graphics the developers could actually develop a good story with a great art style. And the fact that you said Persona is "basically" an adventure game just makes everything else you just said void."

The reason why persona is so highly acclaimed is because it simulates the jrpg experience in what is basically not a jrpg. 

Last Remnant is pretty good.
Infinite Undiscovery is meh

That being said, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, and Tales are all fantastic. 
Why do I consider the 360 good for jrpgs?  well, there's consistently a good one every couple months. 
You really need to stop hiding behind the ps2, because it took a long time for jrpgs to start rolling crazily on that baby.  People did what your doing to the 360 as what they did to the ps2 with the ps1.

This is a view from someone who likes jrpgs perspective, not someone who will just pop in and out for final fantasy.

"

^ no, it is a rpg, but it just seems like its acclaimed for straying to its non rpg like sides.  For example, I think people enjoy tthe muder mystery part of persona more than anything else.
It's simply because it runs on things similar to adventure games and dating sims. 

I think people wouldn't have liked it if it were more traditional

lol waddaya know, more ps3 hate from a 360 fanboy. i think the game looks decent. since when was the last time an rpg looked THAT impressive really? really though i have no opinion, as i never play rpgs (although i enjoyed playing my brothers copy of valkyria chronicles....which reminds me, will brad ever review that game, i thought he played it?)

It's Level 5, they have yet to make a bad RPG. You people need to settle the hell down. Graphics whores.

that looks terrible.  what happened?  it had so much promise.

I think most of the developer's effort went into the battle system, which still looks great.

"^ no, it is a rpg, but it just seems like its acclaimed for straying to its non rpg like sides.  For example, I think people enjoy tthe muder mystery part of persona more than anything else.
It's simply because it runs on things similar to adventure games and dating sims. 

I think people wouldn't have liked it if it were more traditional"

"^ no, it is a rpg, but it just seems like its acclaimed for straying to its non rpg like sides.  For example, I think people enjoy tthe muder mystery part of persona more than anything else.
It's simply because it runs on things similar to adventure games and dating sims. 

I think people wouldn't have liked it if it were more traditional"

It looks fine. The city is a little empty, but besides that, everything looks solid. Remember: this is a JRPG.

"Corporate?  BWAHAHAHA!!!  This is Level 5, suckas!!!  These are the same doods that brought us the amazing with Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Dragon Quest VIII, and Rogue Galaxy!!!  These guys do no wrong!

And yeah, man...that game looks so bad.  Look at the excellent lighting effects, the superior anti-aliasing, the shadows, the changing day-to-night cycle, the in-world enemy encounters, the combo system, the detail of the battle system in later gameplay...

Yeah, this game is going to be SOOOOOOO bad.  I hate PS3 with a passion, but this is going to be so fuckin' sweet.  Why?  Again, because it's Level 5, and they have one of the most solid track records in the business.

"

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"^ no, it is a rpg, but it just seems like its acclaimed for straying to its non rpg like sides.  For example, I think people enjoy tthe muder mystery part of persona more than anything else.
It's simply because it runs on things similar to adventure games and dating sims. 

I think people wouldn't have liked it if it were more traditional"

Wait, I'm confused... are you saying it's a bad thing that Atlus tried to make a game that wasn't completely traditional? Traditional JRPG's have their place (Lost Oddyssey), but RPG-makers have to seriously stop waiting for the next Final Fantasy game to do what it does. It seems like in general this stagnant genre has a hard time evolving and when it does it is no longer a part of the genre? Just because GTA: San Andreas has planes that you can fly doesn not make it a flight simulator."

"It looks fine. The city is a little empty, but besides that, everything looks solid. Remember: this is a JRPG."

Looks fine to me. Does every next gen game need a weird shiny sheen splattered all over it to be deemed good looking?

"I'm confused.  You go in between seriousness and sarcasm so fluidly."

"No, I'm just saying that people only liked it because it tried to be like something else than a jrpg.
In other words, it not necessarily an instant hit with people who like jrpgs but more so to others for bringing what people like get out of any jrpg to them.  "

It don't look that bad.
I think it looks good.

"

Looks fine to me. Does every next gen game need a weird shiny sheen splattered all over it to be deemed good looking?

"

"UltramanJ said:

"Looks fine to me. Does every next gen game need a weird shiny sheen splattered all over it to be deemed good looking?"

oh no, it's not that. It's just the fact that there's nothing great that they could splash over.  It looks so bland.  Too bland. "

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"UltramanJ said:

"Looks fine to me. Does every next gen game need a weird shiny sheen splattered all over it to be deemed good looking?"

oh no, it's not that. It's just the fact that there's nothing great that they could splash over.  It looks so bland.  Too bland. "

Welcome to the current generation."

I never got the hype for this game, but I don't touch JRPGs that don't have "Mother" or "Earthbound" in the title.  Eh, I guess I'll never understand the genre as a whole.

As for the screens, the city looks alright, but it seems so lifeless and generic.  It really needs some flair.