This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, but I can't stand all the "game of the decade" talk, or whatever. The decade doesn't end until Dec. 31st, 2010!
For those that do not know, the first year of recorded history would end on Dec. 31st, 0001. The tenth year of the first decade would then end on Dec. 31st, 0010. Likewise, the first year of this decade ended on Dec. 31st, 2001. I understand the cultural convenience of defining a decade as 70-79, 80-89, and 90-99, but it isn't accurate. Does this bug anyone else, or am I just making a big deal out of nothing?
So the moral of the story is, stop making your game of the decade lists. We still have another outstanding year of gaming to consider!
Games we will play during the last year of the decade:
Starcraft 2
God of War 3
Mass Effect 2
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Gran Turismo 5
Metroid: Other M
Bioshock 2
Halo Reach
Bayonetta
No More Heroes 2
Final Fantasy 13
WoW: Catyclsm
Hey, the decade isn't over.. let's stop with the GotD talk!
This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, but I can't stand all the "game of the decade" talk, or whatever. The decade doesn't end until Dec. 31st, 2010!
For those that do not know, the first year of recorded history would end on Dec. 31st, 0001. The tenth year of the first decade would then end on Dec. 31st, 0010. Likewise, the first year of this decade ended on Dec. 31st, 2001. I understand the cultural convenience of defining a decade as 70-79, 80-89, and 90-99, but it isn't accurate. Does this bug anyone else, or am I just making a big deal out of nothing?
So the moral of the story is, stop making your game of the decade lists. We still have another outstanding year of gaming to consider!
Games we will play during the last year of the decade:
Starcraft 2
God of War 3
Mass Effect 2
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Gran Turismo 5
Metroid: Other M
Bioshock 2
Halo Reach
Bayonetta
No More Heroes 2
Final Fantasy 13
WoW: Catyclsm
Yes it does. The 00's consist of ten years, starting with 2000 (hence the name "00's", or "90's", etc... the first year is the year that begins with zero)
Like I said, that is the convenient and accepted way of defining a decade in our television culture (as there is no snappy way to refer to 1981-1990), but it is mathematically inaccurate. Unless you think the first year ends on Dec. 31st, 0000. Scientists and anthropologists do not." Yes it does. The 00's consist of ten years, starting with 2000 (hence the name "00's", or "90's", etc... the first year is the year that begins with zero) "
I would be astonished if Starcraft 2 didn't come out in 2010. This is the game that was very playable during the 2007 Blizzcon, had a reasonable release prediction for early/mid-2009, and is all but finished. How could they possibly miss Q4/Q3, or even Q2 2010?" I understand where you're coming from, but no one does that. It is generally accepted that the decade ends with the 9 year. Also, Starcraft 2 ain't coming out in 2010. "
" I get it and I'm with you. There is no year 0 in the Gregorian calendar, and because a decade is by definition ten years, the first decade ran from 01/01/01 to 12/31/10.If I remember correctly, it was kind of a big deal back in 2000. There was a camp of anthropological nerds in the corner, quietly celebrating the millennium on Dec. 31st 2001. Nobody came to their party.
Of course, being that strict would have thrown off people's new-millennium celebrations. "
" Fully agree with the OP. When did 2000 - 2009 became a decade? last time I checked a decade stood for 10 years, or did I miss something? "That's not what he's saying. 2000 - 2009 is ten years (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009). The problem is that the calendar started from 1, not from 0.
lol i posted somethin on this earlier in the day or yesterday for those on the east.
http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/best-_____-of-the-decade-talk-starting-now-why/379555/
I think this started as a joke on Gregory XIII part and his advisers mistook for an actual command." @Mordukai said:
" Fully agree with the OP. When did 2000 - 2009 became a decade? last time I checked a decade stood for 10 years, or did I miss something? "That's not what he's saying. 2000 - 2009 is ten years (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009). The problem is that the calendar started from 1, not from 0. "
Don't know about that Starcraft 2 thing. Blizz didn't release any games this year. Did they? Seems that the end of 2010 is about 2 years after WotLK. So Cata might be ready.
Don't think Blizzard wants to poison it's cash cow's watering hole, just yet. Arthas is being killed as we speak. The movie is being made. I think they will be announcing Cata's official release date before the end of summer. Not Starcraft 2 or D3. I wouldn't be surprised if the first game didn't come out till 2011.
Playable is one thing, but content to play, is another.
Also...
I blame the Indians for not inventing 0 early enough, settling this issue before it even started. ;P
But yeah 2010 has to be the start of the next decade, we consider 1960 being the start of the Sixties so 2010 will be the start of the...Tens... that doesn't sound right. It won't even begin sounding right until we get to the Twenties.../sigh
None of us were alive in '0', so it doesn't really matter. Is it stupid when people consider 2000 to be the start of the millenium? Yes. Is it stupid when you count a decade as all the years beginning with that umber? No. When you say "the 80s" you mean January 1st of 1980 thruogh December 31st of 1989. January first of 1990 is now the 90s. Therefore, the "naughts" decade is 2000 through 2009. Then 2010 through 2019. Then 2020 through 2029. I'm not getting the conflict, here...
no your wrong, it really isn't. you're just assuming that what you have always believed must be common knowledge." It is generally accepted that the decade ends with the 9 year. "
and you too:
@Yukoei said:
i mean come on, you proved our point in your own silly demonstration there, how the hell does 10=2009?" You are wrong. 1. 2000 2. 2001 3. 2002 4. 2003 5. 2004 6. 2005 7. 2006 8. 2007 9. 2008 10. 2009 /Thread. "
I agree with the OP. And you guys can go ask NASA if you don't believe us. Decades end at 10. its not like we count from 0-9. its not like websites review games 0-9 either. Its ALWAYS 1-10.
this is just a technical thing though so I completely understand why people disagree. Technically I am correct, but in a way you can be right too, because its a meme type of thing you guys are refering to. we call decades the 60's because its a catchy and easier way to organize times. but the truth is that its not correct .
" @Bigandtasty said:I understand what you are going for here, but rooting it 2000 years ago does not help your argument. The new Millenium started on Jan. 1, 2000, therefore, I will base my decade off of that. Jan. 1, 2010 will be a new decade for me.Like I said, that is the convenient and accepted way of defining a decade in our television culture (as there is no snappy way to refer to 1981-1990), but it is mathematically inaccurate. Unless you think the first year ends on Dec. 31st, 0000. Scientists and anthropologists do not. "" Yes it does. The 00's consist of ten years, starting with 2000 (hence the name "00's", or "90's", etc... the first year is the year that begins with zero) "
Also, Starcraft 2 could easily take game of the decade for 2010-2020. They have been working on it long enough at this point...
On a more distant point: I don't care about the game of the decade. That is a bit broad for me. To think that you have to try to compare Halo: Combat Evolved directly to Uncharted 2 or God of War 1 (all games I picked at random, I'm not jumping to shit here) is a bit ridiculous. Gaming has changed significantly in the last ten years, I just don't think it is fair or reasonable to do so. It is like a "Best Game Ever" discussion. The selection is far too vast in my opinion.
" @Knives said:no the new mellenium did not start on 2000 jan 1 no matter how many times you repeat it. sorry." @Bigandtasty said:I understand what you are going for here, but rooting it 2000 years ago does not help your argument. The new Millenium started on Jan. 1, 2000, therefore, I will base my decade off of that. Jan. 1, 2010 will be a new decade for me. Also, Starcraft 2 could easily take game of the decade for 2010-2020. They have been working on it long enough at this point... On a more distant point: I don't care about the game of the decade. That is a bit broad for me. To think that you have to try to compare Halo: Combat Evolved directly to Uncharted 2 or God of War 1 (all games I picked at random, I'm not jumping to shit here) is a bit ridiculous. Gaming has changed significantly in the last ten years, I just don't think it is fair or reasonable to do so. It is like a "Best Game Ever" discussion. The selection is far too vast in my opinion. "Like I said, that is the convenient and accepted way of defining a decade in our television culture (as there is no snappy way to refer to 1981-1990), but it is mathematically inaccurate. Unless you think the first year ends on Dec. 31st, 0000. Scientists and anthropologists do not. "" Yes it does. The 00's consist of ten years, starting with 2000 (hence the name "00's", or "90's", etc... the first year is the year that begins with zero) "
but yeah game of the decade is stupid. i dont see why its important. in one year we've seen games like killzone 2 and uncharted 2 take us to a new level of gaming, 10 years is ridiculous. the strides the industry has made are tremendous.
" You are wrong. 1. 2000 2. 2001 3. 2002 4. 2003 5. 2004 6. 2005 7. 2006 8. 2007 9. 2008 10. 2009 /Thread. "Awesome.
Phew, good thing you were here to set us straight regarding decades! A minute more of that nonsense and we might have... what? Who the fuck cares? Go find a hobby.
Exactly." @nukesniper said:
" @Knives said:no the new mellenium did not start on 2000 jan 1 no matter how many times you repeat it. sorry. but yeah game of the decade is stupid. i dont see why its important. in one year we've seen games like killzone 2 and uncharted 2 take us to a new level of gaming, 10 years is ridiculous. the strides the industry has made are tremendous. "" @Bigandtasty said:I understand what you are going for here, but rooting it 2000 years ago does not help your argument. The new Millenium started on Jan. 1, 2000, therefore, I will base my decade off of that. Jan. 1, 2010 will be a new decade for me. Also, Starcraft 2 could easily take game of the decade for 2010-2020. They have been working on it long enough at this point... On a more distant point: I don't care about the game of the decade. That is a bit broad for me. To think that you have to try to compare Halo: Combat Evolved directly to Uncharted 2 or God of War 1 (all games I picked at random, I'm not jumping to shit here) is a bit ridiculous. Gaming has changed significantly in the last ten years, I just don't think it is fair or reasonable to do so. It is like a "Best Game Ever" discussion. The selection is far too vast in my opinion. "Like I said, that is the convenient and accepted way of defining a decade in our television culture (as there is no snappy way to refer to 1981-1990), but it is mathematically inaccurate. Unless you think the first year ends on Dec. 31st, 0000. Scientists and anthropologists do not. "" Yes it does. The 00's consist of ten years, starting with 2000 (hence the name "00's", or "90's", etc... the first year is the year that begins with zero) "
Look at the past decade.
System Shock 2 - August 11th, 1999
Planescape: Torment - December 12th, 1999
Thief II: The Metal Age - March 21st, 2000
Deus Ex - June 22nd, 2000.
All within a span of 10 months.
" Why is this even a discussion? Yes you're right mathematically but logically it makes no sense. Would it make sense to add 6 hours to each year? No, though it is mathematically correct we as a society elected the leap year, because it makes logical sense. "You appear to be confusing logic with convenience.
So, basically you're saying:" You are wrong. 1. 2000 2. 2001 3. 2002 4. 2003 5. 2004 6. 2005 7. 2006 8. 2007 9. 2008 10. 2009 /Thread. "
1. 0000
2. 0001
3. 0002
...
9. 0008
10. 0009
This makes me uncomfortable. It's like the feeling a person with OCD gets walking through a house full of crooked picture frames. Or the feeling a linguist gets when he hears someone say "I could care less."
A decade are ten years... you define where to start from." @Yukoei said:
So, basically you're saying: 1. 0000 2. 0001 3. 0002 ... 9. 0008 10. 0009 This makes me uncomfortable. It's like the feeling a person with OCD gets walking through a house full of crooked picture frames. Or the feeling a linguist gets when he hears someone say "I could care less." "" You are wrong. 1. 2000 2. 2001 3. 2002 4. 2003 5. 2004 6. 2005 7. 2006 8. 2007 9. 2008 10. 2009 /Thread. "
Some people prefer counting from 00 others 01.
You are horribly mistaken. The decade is indeed over at the end of this month. This decade began in 2000, the next decade will begin in 2010. It's like so many others have said: all other decades have been from 0-9.
70's: 1970-1979,
80's: 1980-1989,
90's: 1990-1999.
Why should this decade be any different?
00's: 2000-2009. And so it will continue to be till the end of time.
@TwoOneFive: " the new mellenium did not start on 2000 jan 1 no matter how many times you repeat it." The new millennium did indeed start in 2000. I guess all those celebrations were for nothing, huh? And I guess 2000 was a part of the 90's too (i don't see a 9 anywhere in that number). Yes, everything goes from 1-10... except for years, those go from 0-9. You are the minority and this is one of those things where what the majority says goes. You folks trying to change the way things have always been really need to go away. See above, decades are measured between 0-9 (unlike everything else), and they always have. Another piece of evidence for this. Look at it logically: 20-00 (notice the zero zero), then there's 20-10 (notice it is now one-zero), then 20-20 (now two-zero). All you have to do is look at the third digit in the year's number, and when that changes, the decade has become new. I know this won't convince you, but hey, I can try. I'd also like to dedicate this paragraph to gakon5, Mordukai, AgentJ, and Bubahula. One last thing: unless you can show me some real documentation proving that "technically you are right" I will stand by my assertion that majority rules. It is indeed the consensus that decades range from 0-9.
This decade argument is going in a couple of other threads. I've already said my peace in those ones, so I'll just say World of Warcraft and leave it at that.
Nobody gives a shit about anthropologists or scientists or historians complaining that there was no year 0. It doesn't matter - it's not like anyone's being specific and calling this the 201st Decade. If they were, they would be wrong. But they are not. That's also why nobody saying 2000 was a new millenium were wrong. They did not say it was 2 millenia since the (Alleged) Birth of Christ. Culturally we (Correctly) attach more importance to the actual number - going from us all saying "Nineteen" to "Twenty" and going from writing 19 to 20 is significant change in our lives, so that year is more important. Same deal with going from "Twenty-Oh" to "Twenty-Ten"/"Twenty-xTeen" It's more important to group things visually than based on some arbitrary counting system.
Here is an example of how NASA defines a decade: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEdecade/SEdecade2001.html Scroll down about half way." You are horribly mistaken. The decade is indeed over at the end of this month. This decade began in 2000, the next decade will begin in 2010. It's like so many others have said: all other decades have been from 0-9.
70's: 1970-1979,
80's: 1980-1989,
90's: 1990-1999.
Why should this decade be any different?
00's: 2000-2009. And so it will continue to be till the end of time.
@TwoOneFive: " the new mellenium did not start on 2000 jan 1 no matter how many times you repeat it." The new millennium did indeed start in 2000. I guess all those celebrations were for nothing, huh? And I guess 2000 was a part of the 90's too (i don't see a 9 anywhere in that number). Yes, everything goes from 1-10... except for years, those go from 0-9. You are the minority and this is one of those things where what the majority says goes. You folks trying to change the way things have always been really need to go away. See above, decades are measured between 0-9 (unlike everything else), and they always have. Another piece of evidence for this. Look at it logically: 20-00 (notice the zero zero), then there's 20-10 (notice it is now one-zero), then 20-20 (now two-zero). All you have to do is look at the third digit in the year's number, and when that changes, the decade has become new. I know this won't convince you, but hey, I can try. I'd also like to dedicate this paragraph to gakon5, Mordukai, AgentJ, and Bubahula. One last thing: unless you can show me some real documentation proving that "technically you are right" I will stand by my assertion that majority rules. It is indeed the consensus that decades range from 0-9. "
Yes, technically that's how decades work, but that's not how it is. We use a different decade. That's how it is. Listen to the Geekbox podcast a couple episodes back, they talk about the practical decade versus the mathematical one.
Dictionary.com's definition of decade:
- a period of ten years: the three decades from 1776 to 1806
- a period of ten years beginning with a year whose last digit is zero: the decade of the 1980s.
- a group, set, or series of ten.
I always understood it as the reason there was no year 0, was because it was a mistake by the guy who created the modern calendar. Also, the birth of Jesus is actually something like 4BC because the same person forgot to add the 4 years Augustus went by a different name. However this may all be wrong as it's from memory, not a source, so i'm open to correction....
It's my opinion anyway that the decade should end with a 9, and that the first AD decade was from 0010 to 0019, because before that were only 9 recorded years (1-9), and therefore not a decade.
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