you used the *cough**cough* shablamph wrong, duder. Glad you like U2 though.

Yes. Uncharted 2 is closer to a game than a movie, unlike MGS4 which was more of a movie than a game.
 
That said, as awesome Uncharted 2 is, it's still feels too much like a movie.

I don't think it's right to compare Uncharted's story to an MGS story though, I mean Uncharted's is brilliant and all but it's nowhere near as deep as MGS's you really need those long cutscenes in MGS to know what the hell is going on, in Uncharted it's quite clear that these are the bad guys and go over here to get the next clue to where the treasure is.

Uncharted's story is fucking amazing, but it is only 2 games worth of story. The MGS4 cutscenes had to wrap up 20 years worth of story with some of the deepest and most developed characters in gaming. Unfair comparison.

Uncharted 2 is an amazing game and favourite for my GOTY. Hard to see anything beat it actually. 
 
Can't get enough, so many wonderful moments.

I'd rather have MGS4 than anything else i've played this year. That game was godly.

Are you going to be known as Un_Charted_Sunny?

I just borrowed UC:DF from my friend to play through before I get UC2 for Christmas.  
 
I really like what I've played, but a lot of the gun fights and some of the platforming are just outrageously frustrating. I hear this one fixes all that though, so I'm really excited to play it! 

" Are you going to be known as Un_Charted_Sunny? "

" I just borrowed UC:DF from my friend to play through before I get UC2 for Christmas.   I really like what I've played, but a lot of the gun fights and some of the platforming are just outrageously frustrating. I hear this one fixes all that though, so I'm really excited to play it!  "

" @Bucketdeth said:

" Are you going to be known as Un_Charted_Sunny? "

No, I'm Sunny_Teh_Stalker now. =P "

I liked MGS4's way of introducing the cut-scenes, it's just another way of doing it. But cool game anyways.

The game has cutscenes rather than just having it all take place through the course of the game, eh? 
 
NOT INTERESTED! 
 
Glad you enjoyed it.

"Are you going to be known as Un_Charted_Sunny? "

Victor_Goddamn_Sullivan

It's Kojima's style to have the long cut scenes. Without those, it's not a Kojima experience. If you don't like his style, don't play the games. Bitching about it is retarded.

fuck it. naughty dog should just make MGS5. their solution to character development made mgs4 look silly. they removed the need for hours of cut scenes by cleverly implementing in game dialogue between the characters. (i still love mgs4 though, its incredible)

" It's Kojima's style to have the long cut scenes. Without those, it's not a Kojima experience. If you don't like his style, don't play the games. Bitching about it is retarded. "

" Victor_Goddamn_Sullivan "

Different games, different ways of telling stories. Both styles work excellently and have different pros and cons, but you clearly know that.
 
Regardless, I would love to hear what any comments from Kojima regarding this game in particular. He's been trying to westernize his team in terms of development practices. The guy plays and has commented on other western games, which is something of a rarity among Japanese developer interviews.

I can say with 100% certainty, that I liked Uncharted's story better than MGS's. 
Why? Maybe because MGS has too much "japanese-ness" or maybe because it's story feels like an homage to previous games in the series. 
Did I like MGS? Sure. Did I care about Snake? Sure. Did I care about all the other dudes? No. 
Uncharted is a solid game with a good, clear, self-contained story. 
Besides, if anyone should take notes, its whoever wrote the gears 2 story. I totally did not understand what was going on in that game.

I think the two forms can coexist. MGS4 was brilliant because the cinematics were so well-made, acted, and choreographed that it truly felt like a movie. I didn't have to press buttons to be emotionally involved. Uncharted 2 has obviously a much more light-hearted story than MGS4 and the interaction during "cut scenes" or just awesome gameplay moments really heightens the feeling that this is a great summer movie....in a video game. I don't have any problem with MGS4's formula and I don't think they really need to change. 
 
That being said...those shotgun guys aren't that hard. To quote Warofart, "I think ur just a noob." ;)

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I don't think it's right to compare Uncharted's story to an MGS story though, I mean Uncharted's is brilliant and all but it's nowhere near as deep as MGS's you really need those long cutscenes in MGS to know what the hell is going on, in Uncharted it's quite clear that these are the bad guys and go over here to get the next clue to where the treasure is.

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@Akeldama

" Uncharted's story is fucking amazing, but it is only 2 games worth of story. The MGS4 cutscenes had to wrap up 20 years worth of story with some of the deepest and most developed characters in gaming. Unfair comparison. "

" @YellowJello said:

" It's Kojima's style to have the long cut scenes. Without those, it's not a Kojima experience. If you don't like his style, don't play the games. Bitching about it is retarded. "

Dude, I loved MGS4. Just look at my god damn username. But the way they handle cut scenes in Uncharted 2 is better than MGS4 in my opinion. I'm not being a bitch about it, you are. 

I still think that MGS4 has better cinematics. I sit there and listen to Drakes stupid ass jokes and comments and his Disney-movie personality (I'm sorry, I really don't like him, especially in the first game) and it really turns me off. I agree that the graphics are WAY better in U2, but in terms of style the cinematics of MGS4 cannot be beat. Maybe a part of it has to do with the characters too... to me, Raiden Snake, Big Mama, Vamp -they just steal the show and the awesome situations they are put in make the cinematics that much better.  
 
I mean come on, neither of the Uncharted games have any thing as well done as when Raiden fends off like 10 Irvings and Vamp. Or, the motorcycle fight. Or the ending. Or Act 4. OMG ACT 4. 
 
sry.

They should make a cinematic and action packed game just like these two games, BUT NOT HAVE ANY CUTSCENES.
 
Uncharted 2 got close enough by having things happen, like the character talking and the environment changing while you are still in control, but they still had cutscenes that interupted the game.
 
It would make it a lot closer for gaming to become it's own art form than instead of continuously trying to mimic movies. With every progress a game like Star Fox 64 and Half-LIfe makes, games like MGS4 take steps back.

" Uncharted's story is fucking amazing, but it is only 2 games worth of story. The MGS4 cutscenes had to wrap up 20 years worth of story with some of the deepest and most developed characters in gaming. Unfair comparison. "

I actually think both games nailed the giving you control of awesome setpieces incredibly well. Both of them nailed the swinging the camera back and let you control this awesome moment. MGS4, however, just had too much exposition, and its combat wasn't nearly as good as Uncharted 2's.

As great as the gameplay is in MGS 4, it takes a back seat to the story. I never felt like that was a terrible design choice though, the cut scenes were hella entertaining.

" @Metal_Gear_Sunny said:

" @YellowJello said:

" It's Kojima's style to have the long cut scenes. Without those, it's not a Kojima experience. If you don't like his style, don't play the games. Bitching about it is retarded. "

Dude, I loved MGS4. Just look at my god damn username. But the way they handle cut scenes in Uncharted 2 is better than MGS4 in my opinion. I'm not being a bitch about it, you are. 

You're still bitching about it. Unlike Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4 is not a cinematic experience, it is a theatrical experience. It's not so much about immersion as it is just about the story. All of Kojima's games are like that. "

No, I hope he doesn't. While MGS4 has longer cutscenes, Uncharted 2 breaks up the action much more often.

" @YellowJello said:

" @Metal_Gear_Sunny said:

" @YellowJello said:

" It's Kojima's style to have the long cut scenes. Without those, it's not a Kojima experience. If you don't like his style, don't play the games. Bitching about it is retarded. "

Dude, I loved MGS4. Just look at my god damn username. But the way they handle cut scenes in Uncharted 2 is better than MGS4 in my opinion. I'm not being a bitch about it, you are. 

You're still bitching about it. Unlike Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4 is not a cinematic experience, it is a theatrical experience. It's not so much about immersion as it is just about the story. All of Kojima's games are like that. "

Seriously, did you not learn your lesson from FPSB?  He's not "btiching" he's just saying he liked one over the other. Just because his opinion differs than yours, doesn't mean you have to go off on him. "

Should've bought it, instead of renting it.

I really enjoyed certain aspects of the story, particularly the Ocelot / Big Boss / Zero segments, but the game would have been much stronger if they trimmed down the rest of the crap and focused more on that from the begining instead of just in the final two chapters.  Everything before that was filler, pure and simple. "

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I don't think it's right to compare Uncharted's story to an MGS story though, I mean Uncharted's is brilliant and all but it's nowhere near as deep as MGS's you really need those long cutscenes in MGS to know what the hell is going on, in Uncharted it's quite clear that these are the bad guys and go over here to get the next clue to where the treasure is.

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" @Metal_Gear_Sunny said:

" @YellowJello said:

" It's Kojima's style to have the long cut scenes. Without those, it's not a Kojima experience. If you don't like his style, don't play the games. Bitching about it is retarded. "

Dude, I loved MGS4. Just look at my god damn username. But the way they handle cut scenes in Uncharted 2 is better than MGS4 in my opinion. I'm not being a bitch about it, you are. 

You're still bitching about it. Unlike Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4 is not a cinematic experience, it is a theatrical experience. It's not so much about immersion as it is just about the story. All of Kojima's games are like that. "

" @nrain said:

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I don't think it's right to compare Uncharted's story to an MGS story though, I mean Uncharted's is brilliant and all but it's nowhere near as deep as MGS's you really need those long cutscenes in MGS to know what the hell is going on, in Uncharted it's quite clear that these are the bad guys and go over here to get the next clue to where the treasure is.

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Just because a lot of shit happens, doesnt make it a deep or good story.  Seriously, as soon as it came out that the Patriots were the folks from MGS3, which itself is a retarded game, i just dropped the controller and turned off the game. read about what happens after in Wikipedia. Eva some how appears, but where was she all this time? big boss put back together from Solidus and Liquid parts?  Retarded Sigint, paramedic, patriots?  Stupid Snake is old but it has nothing to do with the story, except make people feel weird. Otacon is a crying bitch, yet again and loses his virginity. god damn it. Sunny is some kind of Genius.  oh god. Meryl and Johnny, the guy who always takes a shit? Why?In order for a story to be good, it doesnt have to have a lot of shit going on, just good characters and plot.  MGS kind of lost that with MGS2. Kojima just gives you more characters, with no real development, and giving you their stories that you dont care about because it has nothing to do with the overall arc.  Vamp is a homosexual?  Ok...  And having all characters come together and be connected into an even bigger story.  Again, the Patriots thing was dumb. The only good character was Meryl, because you have seen her grow from a Rookie to a pretty good soldier. "